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had to share the beauty and craftsmanship in Dieter's Spoons. Just Awesome!! Thank you sir!!

ok Mike, I dug out some of my old notes. 3--tea spoons = 1- table spoon 52 -drops of color or stablizer = 1/2 teaspoon 10-teaspoons of glitter = 2 oz. jar 1--table spoon = 1/2 oz. 8 -table spoons = 4oz. or a 1/2 cup 2 cups = a pint 4 cups = a quart 16 cups = gallon 256 table spoons in a gallon 128 oz in a gallon 640 oz. in 5 gallon -------------- prices at this time - a few years ago - includes shipping hardner -- $ 16.00 qt -- 64 tables spoons = 25 cents a table spoon scent ---- $ 55.00 qt.-- 64 table spoons = 86 cents a table spoon - very costly !!!! color -- $ 5.00 -- 2 oz bottle-- 4 table spoons -- 416 drops -- apx. 1 cent per drop glitter -- $ 15.00 -- 8 oz. bag --- 40 tea sp. 37 cents per. teaspoon salt -- $ 3.00 gallon --- 256 table spoons = just over 1 cent per table spoon softner --$ 40.00 gallon --256 table spoons = 16 cents per table spoon worm oil - same as softner plastic -- $ 150.00 -- 5 gallon ---640 oz. --- 23 cents per oz. ----------------------------------------------- so say for... top water frogs 14 oz. plastic ---23 x 14 = $ 3.22 1-- tea hardner--- 25 per. table - div. 3 = teaspoon = 8 cents 20 - drops color --- 20 cents 1/2 tea - glitter ---- 19 cents makes --26 baits 3.22 + .08 + .20 + .19 $ 3.69 div. 26 = 14 cents each frog cost for materials only add,, bags,,, elec. ,,,labor,, paper towells,, ect .. .14 cents cost x 4 to get retail bag of 6 frogs cost me to make .14x 6 = 84 cents just materials . x 4.5 for retail $ 3.78I would round this up to $ 3.99 retail if I have enough molds of the same bait I average apx. 50 baits per. hour so that 1/2 hour labor for the batch of 26 frogs I was remelting the sprues as I went & with no salt you have very little waste ------- salted & scented creature bait 14 oz -- plastic --- $3.22 4 tables salt-------- $ .05 cents 1 table spoon softner--- $ .16 cents 20 drops color---------$ .20 cents 3/4 teaspoon glitter ---$ .55 cents 1/2 teaspoon scent --- .43 cents makes 25 baits $ 4.61 cost for 25 baits just materials --.18 cents per. bait cost.. x 4.5 = retail 6 baits per. bag = .18 x 4.5 = .81 cents x 6 baits = $ 4.86 - round up to $4.99 bag salted waiste in the bottom of cup ,, but it is covered in the cost. when making baits @ your house you can not figure your electric cost.. so i just guess @ taking my cost X 4.5 = retail per. bag.. i would sell them for less in 50 ct bags.. never made very much for labor,, but had fun and still make my own baits to fish with. the larger container you buy for all products saves you money,, the guy I sold out to started rite off w/ a 55 gallon drum of plastic & saved a lot on that cost. Jeff

Bill let me say I get both of your points but you are talking about the same thing just differant amounts just like my example. He used a 1/2 pound because that is what it take to fill his mold. I used 1/2 oz because that is the weight one of mine is. In my mind apples and apples. Mike cant quote a weight for a mold that he does not have. Price per piece has to include a sprue so some sprues weigh more and like I said before there is a differance if there is a 1,2,4,6 or 8 cavity mold. Here is and actual bait I make in two sizes Small craw bait. actual weight including sprue .47 which cost me 12 cts for plastic and 16cts to open the mold cost 28cts per bait plus fet. Large craw bait actual weight including sprue 1 oz which cost me 25cts for plastic and 16cts to open the mold cost 41cts per bait plus fet. My plastic cost is from the worst case possible at the highest price it will cost me to get it to my door. Pretty simple for me and it works for now. I will remelt sprues and reuse but that way the money is for me. If a customer can use the colors from some of the laminate sprues I just charge for the labor per bait. You can see the cost would be lower per bait if the sprue was shared. Not the only way just the way for me right now. Frank

Vodkaman built this one. Fairly simple and looks easy to build. Maybe it is what you need. It will definitely keep the space between the wraps consistent. Hope this helps. John

Amazing how well plastic pours and injects if you shake it first! Hahaha Thanks again guys for you help.

I find adding the flake first helps me get closer when I'm adding color, because the flake alters the color of the plastic, at least for me.

Very well written Overspray! Musky Glenn