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@ archeryrob Basically I'm making those eyes similar as shown in Vodkaman's video(thanks for providing it in here , Ben) , ...only that I would clamp the tag end of the wire firmly into the vise , hold the pre-bent eye with a crosswise inserted drill bit , nail or similar and put tension on it , then winding around the other wire end with pliers(my wire is obviously more rigid as the one shown) , ...need to change grip with every winding , though . To glue in these eyes , one needs to furnish matching holes , in this case 3 mm dia(my wire is 1 mm thick) preferably as snug so thta the eye's shnk still has to be twisted in and not just pushed . Really important is to put epoxy glue INTO the hole , use a toothpick to fill up it's bottom and smear glue all around it's inner walls , ....off course also apply glue to the eyes shank as well and slowly TWIST it in , not just push , ........this way glue gets everywhere and you'd achieve the best possible bond . Just putting glue on the eye's shank would end up in having a good share of glue wiped off when inserting the eyes , ....a much weaker bond would be the result . I had tested these kinda eyes , .......glued one of about 1" shaft length into the end of a piece of broomstick in the above mentioned manner , ...let the epoxy glue cure for 72 hrs.(max strength according to describtion) , ..fixed that timber piece into my vise and tied a cord loop to attach the wire eye to my 25 kilograms fishing scales and puled on the scales as hard as I could . At about 12 kilograms pull(approx. 26 lbs) the cord snapped , due to the sudden release the scales got spoilt , but the wire eye was still in place , did not even bend oval nor the surrounding glue plug seemed to have lost grip on the wood . And this was only on a linear pull direction , also the springy features of a fishing rod and the advantages of a reel drag were missing in that test , ....so I guess, that these kinda eyes will hold up pretty well . Only disadvantage is the rather more time consuming working process and the higher weight compared to "ordinary" twisted wire eyes . Concerning weights in such plugs sporting integrated head planes for diving , ..........when I was new into luremaking about 20 years ago , I had attempted to get them down deeper by placing ballast into their belly , ....only to find out , that this would seriously minimize their wiggle . Nowadays figure out , that this must be because such diving planes can never provide as much leverage in the water like an added diving bill of plastic or metal , which makes up for a much bigger plane somewhere below the center axis of a lure blank , thus having a bigger tendency causing a lure to roll or break out sidewards compared to the most likely smaller integrated diving bill bein located AROUND the tow eye , thus not as much leverage as well . This is the reason , why such plugs can't handle extra ballast in their belly , their general balance is just too subtle and sensitive . Probably ballast placed right on dead center of the lengthwise axis and also on the lengthwise center of gravity would act rather more neutral , but I have not tried to achieve this before , ........I'd rather go for a suitable material in terms of hitting the right buoancy . Check out the final picture with the lure on water , ....if it sits at this level , it would perform best , ....a little lower decreases popping sound a bit , a little higher would decrease diving depth . A longer lower lip might cause the lure to flip over on it's back , a higher tow eye either , ........if your lower lip is a bit longer than shown , you might place the tow eye lower to avoid overturning , but in this case the lure would not wiggle as much . greetz , Dieter

Here ya go Rob. It's Vodkamans post and I think it's #7. He has a short video of how he makes his manually twisted hook hangers. He's also got a mechanical jig he made for doing barrel twisted line ties and hook hangers in the Homebrew Tools section. Just look for "Barrel Twist Jig". Ben http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/topic/23014-hook-hangers/page__p__172143__hl__+barrel%20+twist__fromsearch__1#entry172143

I can take the bad criticism as well as i do the good but name calling, are we still in grade school. Rookie, ive always enjoyed reading what you post and the ideas you share as sarcastic they might be but if you want to insult someone there are better words in the dictionary to do so with. Dipstick just sounds childish. Anyway, thanks for giving me a bit of your wisdom, im sure one day i will sell something but rest assured it wont be anything like your 100 dollar lure.