Rebel2345, like I said I have been folowing along with this, and yes I have read his forum. I couldn't help but notice that in his last statement he says "he thinks" everything will be fine and that we need to just wait a while, in the mean time Frank has a thousand dollars worth of molds that he has to just "wait" on. Do you feel like this is fair to him? Its obvious by being a good customer and purchasing 40 molds that his intentions were to sell the baits, how is waiting profitable to him? Caney Creek should have immediatly stepped in just as soon as the customer recieved the letter and offered to change the mold or to refund his money, but no, they're continuing to advertise the mold on their website for sale and they're not sure if they are infringing or not. Again, the customer is suffering due to someone's lack of knowledge of patents, they just didn't do their homework. It dosen't matter what the bait looks like, if Zoom's patent points are included on the bait, then its patent ifringment. The only way to know for sure is to run this past a patent attorney, it shouldn't be left up to an inocent customer. I bet if it was Bear Baits or Del's you would have a difference of opinion, and if it would've been Bear or Del's they would have immediatly pulled the mold off of their website, and I know Bear would have given a refund to anyone who wanted it. His company would have taken it on theirselves and not told a good customer (such as Frank) to wait and see what happens. I know what I'm talking about on this one, I went through the same thing with the same patent and I hired the patent attorney, like I said the looks of the bait has nothing to do with it. If I was making molds that were not custom and sold genericaly, then I would do my homework on every mold that I produced, that way I could be sure my customers would not have to go through such an inconvienence. Its not fair to spend your money on a mold and be told you have to wait before you use it. Is that good customer service and is that standing behind your product? Rest assured, if it would have been any other company my opinion would have been the same, and I would have stated it.