Since the question was about a patent infringment is it not the responsibility of a moldmaker to have general knowledge, just like the hunting? Is a patent # on a package and listed on a website not a reasonable way to know that you are infringing? I did not say that you were suggesting for someone to violate the patent. But you were suggesting that by not knowing that the product is patented, that no legal action could be taken, which is a false statement. As far as how much Zoom made me pay, all of my legal fees and remember I had no knowledge of this and I also had no way of knowing whether or not the information Zoom gave me was correct. You're basically trying to argue with me but what you're really trying to say is what the patent attorney told me is wrong. Contact any federal law enforcement agency and run your theory by them and you will be told whether you know the law or not, if you break it, you can be prosecuted. It's very simple, if you infringe on a patent, you're breaking the law. How is that not simple? And again, pertaining to federal patent laws, and after I have talked to a patent attorney, who explained to me in a situation such as the question that was asked in the beginning, that ignorance of a patent law is no excuse. I was referring to no other law but patent laws. The knee jerk comments were made when someone just decides to argue for the sake of arguing, who says they are not a lawyer, and to always contact a lawyer, and then the person that did contact a lawyer posts what they were told by the lawyer, and then you tell them that the information I received does not pertain to the subject. Go back and quote where I was talking about anything other than patent infringment, besides the examples that I gave, when you alone decided that my comment pertained to every law in existence, which it did not. My comment pertained to the question that was asked at the beginning of this thread. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't spend my time just looking for an argument. I try to be responsible enough to shoot people the facts to keep someone from winding up in the situation that I found myself in. After all, I was as innocent as the guy that was thinking about purchasing the mold. I tried to help someone to avoid a costly situation that I found myself in. In what way did you help answer the gentleman's question, or did you just spend your time scrutinizing my comments? After all, I am the one that paid the patent attorneys for the information.