I make lots of crankbaits. I've never sold one and don't want to. The fact that I have zero commercial interest doesn't inhibit me from participating in TU. Likewise for a majority of the guys on the site. Yeah, sometimes I get dinked for something I say on TU. Stick around any web forum long enough and it will happen to you. It's just the nature of the beast. Most often, stuff like that happens because someone reads meaning into a post that was never intended. When I get that kind of reaction to one of my posts, the onus is on me for not being clear enough or not expressing myself well enough. In the 12 years I've frequented the site, I can't remember seeing a personal insult posted. Differences of opinion, yes. If there were no differences of opinion, I wouldn't bother reading TU ever again.