Yeah i hear ya on the walleye thing seems like alot of saltwater and trout bass, steelheads and such. Would be nice to try somthing difffrent.I didnt know northland had a copyright on that thanks for all the info. Just getting ready for the ice to break out and head up to the rainy river for the spawn heard there gonna open red lake back up to walleyes in 2006 that be great every time i go for crappies or perch and poike you always seem to get at least one walleye in with those bottom feeders. Well thanks alot! when i get one done that im satisfed with ill post it on here.