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I had further samples sent to me for testing. I sent results to Bruce. Got no response at all either. Jim

I think it is a good choice if you use those. Using the mic and salt and eveything all at once will make doing other baits easy. I say go for it! Jim

Also, try www.searsoutlet.com... They have some for $15 if you have one in your area.... Jim

Check flea markets and garage sales or get ahold of guys that remodel in your area. They usually throw the kitchen exhaust stuff out and might be glad for you to take it. I bought my "old" one at a garage sale for $15. As long as you can live with the olive green color, you are good! Jim

True Jon. My example suggestes room air exchanges 8 times per hour only. Probably not enough for plastisol fumes. Also consider if you are pouring directly under the hood, your air exchange will be greatly increased. Jim

Try this for a rough gauge: This method works on the assumption that the goal for room ventilation is 8 complete air changes per hour. Take your square footage x ceiling height to get the total cubic feet to be ventilated. Example: Room measures 10 feet wide and 12 feet long. It has 8 foot ceilings. So 10 x 12 x 8 = 960 cubic feet. We take the cubic feet and divide by 60 - which is the number of minutes in an hour. We take the result and multiply by 8 (remember, our target is 8 complete air changes each hour). The complete equation is as follows: STEP 1 10 ft X 12 ft X 8 ft = 960 cubic feet. STEP 2 960 divided by 60 = 16. STEP 3 16 x 8 = 128 So - we need 128 CFM of air movement to properly ventilate this room. Assuming there is not and excessively long or twisting duct run to the outside - we would select a fan that moves somewhere around 130 CFM or higher. Home Depot, Lowe's or garage sales for larger fans.... Jim

Both make nice colors but different as has been described. I still have a quart of the "old" stuff. I use it every day I'd bet. PS Mike brings up a good and important point. The pigment is just mixed with softener so the more colorant you add, the softer your baits will come out. 50 drops of a colorant will impact your resulting baits significantly if you are already starting out with super soft plastisol. Jim

I may have hit on the partial answer as to why some have lots of micro-bubbles and some just have few bubbles and some may not report any. I had not used any Pourasol in a few days and wanted to get the soft pack mixed back up. Turned my jugs over and left them for an hour or so. Came back and there was a nice ring of plastisol on the shop floor. I know if plastisol can get out, moisture can get in. Stabilizer is made in a way that some "salts" are introduced into the plastisol. My theory is, the HIGH (80-90%) humidity, is getting into my plastisol, even though the lids are on as tight as you could get one. I have a way of evacuating the humidity (water) out via a buddy so I am going to take a sample to be de-aired. I do think the microwave still is causing some issue via the rapid cook but my hunch is guys are seeing this in places with very high humidity because the jug/lid combo is not effectively sealing out the moisture. Plus, Spike It is here in GA, where the humidity is HIGH. Another chance for contamination right out of the factory... Will update after de-airing... Jim

Ditto... Plastic not mixed well enough prior to pouring into whatever before cooking.. Jim

True story bud. I am going to do everything I can to test things and find a way forward. Unfortunately, the microwave is readily available and is such a common way to "cook" plstisol. I will keep updating as we move forward. I know there is solution. Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow, Lord knows I need it!!! Jim

News on the Pourasol as I have recieved samples from Lureworks that are of a different formula. I liked the way it cooked but the micro bubbles were actually worse. Only had 4oz so I cooked the medium 1 minute, then stirred then 15 seconds, 15 secs, etc til done. Resulting baits were much stickier and softer. I have yet to try the hard version. Will tonight for sure. This is the start of working out a formula that will give far less or no microbubbles in the medium and hard versions of Pourasol. I applaud Lureworks for working on this as they could have left it alone. They are interested in the hand pour guys and hand injectors alike. I am going to try everything they ask in testing to see if there can be a solution for us "mic" users. Jim

Do a search in Soft Plastics as member Nova has put pictures of his cup and pictures of baits as well. The 3 color cup does not make a perfect 3 color bait like a Roboworm, etc. It will make a swirl or mixed color. 3 colors need to be made by hand pour OR hand pour and hand injection or even the core technique for hand injection. The latter is very hard to reproduce for production and timely as well. Jim

You will also see the water get pulled into the mold, even if you set it just on an area where a cup sweated water. Cool air is OK, aluminum is good but water is not a good choice UNLESS you protect the mold and no water gets to it directly. I.e. a cooling system with water in copper tubing would be fine... Jim

Shop it to all the mold makers and see what you get. I'll bet one or more can cut you a prototype in a week or 2, no longer. It will cost you to keep the design private but put all that in writing. I believe if you want the design private, you will cover all the costs of the CAD (or design developemtn in software), prototype cuts etc. All the costs that are usually absorbed by the mold maker will be born by you. No worries as it sounds like you have a winner Frank!!!!! Jim

Here you go, check this out..... http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/topic/11734-presto-pot-version-2-double-trouble/page__p__82729__hl__%2Bpresto+%2Bpot__fromsearch__1#entry82729 Jim

Bears all the way. The guy that strted making them long ago stopped. I have the stirring sytem from Bear and it is the BOMB!!!!! Worth the wait and you will be able to crank them out so fast you will catch up quick. Look back in the posts. If you can get a helper, you can run on both side of the pot and really make some sticks. Dual ports... I believe the member that started the Presto pot deal was MBroggi or something like that. His set-ups were posted here. Jim

You just confuse passion with seriousness. Jim

Just black or can I get some watermelon red flake?

No correction from me however you have to get past the picky BUYERS before your bait gets in the water...... Bubbles will weaken a bait and it will tear where the hook penetrates. Tears real easy. Think straight worm mold and how the head is at the top (for hand injection). Whole top or head of bait would have thousands of bubbles as air rises.... Bubbles in a bait are not good no matter hand pour or hand injection, unless maybe just in the tail section so it floats even better (worm or bait like that, swimbait would be worthless same with many others..) Jim

Huh???? If you mean when I fish, heck no. We have the biggest time, usually cause we are catching, not fishing!!!! LOL!!!! Always a blast in my boat. If you mean something else, I got no clue.... LC is $148.50 to my location.... Problem is, we are still comparing apples to oranges in a way. Some of these are higher levels of plastisol, like Ultrasol. But we are quoting Pourasol copmared to M-F and CCM. Not the same as M-F and CCM are made with higher grade pvc's. For a closer comparison, I would guess Ultrasol is $129 + approx $20 or so to ship so $149 to $155 to my house... Still a good price in comparison...... Jim