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Gary: These are NOT core shots! Just a bloody gill area and a lateral line. All plastic though, no paint. They look good but are done a different way. Thanks for the compliments though!!! Jim

Good idea... Might want to use plastic instead of paint even... PS Beware of putting plastic paint on your molds... I ruined some that way! Jim

Excellent shot Mike!!! Illustrates the core perfect! Sounds like the injection core is a lot like the hand poured core... Trial and error until you get the timing and a system down. Jim

Good point Dave. I have comtemplated taking my pop molds I have not sealed on the outside and actually coating them with a layer of saltwater plastic. The plastic will stick to the outside of the non-coated mold real good and will give some cushion if dropped. That is a down side of pop molds. They can break! Jim

Finally got around to doing my version of this color... Belly has extremely fine silver flake with some blue highlight. Green body with green and gold flakes.. Be glad to give you my recipe if interested, just PM me. Jim

Just to be sure what we are talking about guys, a core shot is color in the center of the bait and does not touch any of the outside of the bait. A split vein is where you can see the color but really only well from the side of the bait as the vein splits to the side of the mold. From the top or bottom of the bait, you cannot see the color well if at all. A vein is where you have color down the middle of the bait and you can generally see the vein from the top of the bait as well as the side view. This is just terminology I have seen used over the years that may make things easier to explain or talk about. Hand pouring a core shot is tough with a high failure rate until you really get things times well. Veins and split veins are a lot easier to do in a variety of ways. In the end, most of the baits seen out there have split veins as they are the easiest to make. Jim

Oops...double post! Jim

LOL... Hey Richard, I think it would be easier to make a sucessful core shot with a hand injection system. Can;t speak on reproducibility as you can, I'm not hand injecting yet. I would guess with time you might achieve better results. Jim

Yep... I salute that!!!! Reminds me of the baits that Nil did! Jim PS Can you post a picture of the back side? I want to see the stars and stripes also!!! Kewl job!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shaping up good to me!!!! Jim

A true core shot has the color only inside the bait, no color runs to the side. If color goes to the side, that really is a standard vein (vs split vein). Core shots are extremely difficult to do by hand pouring but can be done... It really is all timing to me and tough to explain but I will try. Pour your first color and let it set up a little bit. As the plastic cools, you get a slight concave area. Pour a small amount into the area without putting to much as to reach the sides. Then again allow for some set-up time and pour your final color or the original color on the bottom. All of this actually happens in around 20 seconds or so I'd guess. It also works well if you pour just a line of plastic initially and then pour your core color on that line. Neither touch the sides of the mold. This takes a lot of practice! Then, you can pour the final color and any cold lines or blemishes will be on the bottom of the worm/bait. As listed above, you might want to check out the hand injector systems as you can blast a core shot with far less practice. If I get time, I'll post up some core shot baits in the gallery (if it is up..) I would guess it took me almost 1 year from when I started hand pouring to the time I could actually get decent, reproduceable core shots. Hand injection will take WAY less than that. Good luck!!!! Jim PS I use your standard pyrex and Anchor cups. The spouted pans deliver a very thin stream as well.

Congrats Mike!!!!! Thank God we have the opportunities in this country to pursue our goals and dreams!!! Many more blessings to you and your "crew" as you go forward!! Jim

You can do exactly that. Put the mold in a slightly larger container and pour the pop around the outside. You can lift the mold slightly with small pieces of anything, as long as they are flat and strengthen the bottom as well. I have gotten into the habit now of brushing on a coat of teh elmers glue all to the outside of all my pop molds as well. Just gives a little more strength... Jim

There were some for sale a while back and I think Shawn Collins made them. If you check in the Suppliers area, you will see that there are many mold makers and all will do custom work. I'd imagine most have something similar programmed. Good luck! Jim PS I looked around for a link and it may be that the area with the suppliers has not made it up yet, hang in there!

Good call. Looking forward to seeing your creation!!! Kajan... Sorry for posting that up. I should have left that part out as that certainly is not what others have seen. My bad.. I'll try to edit that post so that others do not read the post and not try out that mold. Jim

You can also try some M-F silver pearl, about 15 drops per 4 oz and 2 drops of white. Jim

AWESOME!!!!! I hand pour, therefore I am! Jim

In the immortal words of Charles Barkley... I'm not a role model!!!! LOL!! Besides, I am not here to help. Plus, I lie about everything!!! Dude, it is not for the glory to help guys, it is pay it forward. Jake and Chris were my idols when I got started. I tried to do what they did. Nil, too. Most of you guys never even saw their work. I still owe a debt and do help way more than anyone knows or needs to know. It doesn't matter. No matter though, the naysayers and name callers can pop back in when they will. Tearing me down will just make me stronger. Degrading my product or my work makes it that much more interesting and pushed me to make things even more outrageous! I love it! When I get my hand injection stuff and start making SICK baits, will I still get reamed out for not doing it the way others are? Hope so!!! For now...I hand pour, therefore I am... Jim

There is a difference, sorry. Prettier is your word for it.... OK... I'll take that. Most of the stuff I do is 1 sided and yes, it is still as pretty. You don't see anythng I do so how would you know what I pour? Or, maybe you visit my site too. Thanks!!! I am not hammering you or anything you have. If everytime someone is looking to do something a person says... Go to Bears' website, or go to LC's website, or Go to Del's website, there needs to be someone to say look at all the options, not just one. I guess you don't recognize the posts that are about recipes, mold making etc as positive. No surprise there. PS As far as the clarity issue, look over the post, you have others to attack as many others stated M-F as the clearest. With the newer samples, Chemionics may be right there as well. Have a fun day dudes!!!!! Jim

Bear, I pour as many, or more, 1 piece molds as I do 2 piece. To be exactly accurate, I pour 10 1 sided and 10 2 sided. Be glad to post the pictures up of baits made in 2 piece molds that are intricate enough to be made only by the hand poured process. Still not my point. Call it what it is... Maybe I am ridiculous. I hand pour, therefore I am.... LOL!!! Jim

I agree Chris. Sorry Mike... guilty!!!! I'll be totally honest, I want to hand inject really bad! (Beyond my test set-up situation I have.) I have already put 20-30 recipes aside as the baits and results are just SICK!!! I know I could make some blow your mind colors. I just want to be able to replicate the laminates and other crazy stuff a year or 2 down the road. Or next week. Just like I can now with hand pouring. If I do, I will proudly say I hand inject those baits and explain the benefits of those baits made, just as I do the hand pours. Jim

Mike: You will never read that I think anything on here is not custom. It all is. I NEVER said that at any time. I still don't think anyone has said anything not nice. There are differences in the 2 process, great. Make your market and sell or fish your baits. I never once said anything bad about hand injection. I would just like to see it called that so those that are looking to get into making baits understand the difference. Many use the terms hand pouring and hand injection interchangeably. Thay should not be. Jim

Hey Mike.... Agreed we all use the same ingredients and we are all going for the same result. Neither is better than the other as I said in the other posts. I am just advocating that if you make your baits AND SELL THEM, label them as how they were made. Be proud the baits were made by hand injection as I am that mine are made by hand pouring. Why label them as hand poured unless you need the hand poured label to help sell your product? Label the baits as hand injected and educate your consumers as the hand poured community has and will continue to. There is no fear on my part for sure of the hand injection systems. Some of the baits I saw were SICK!! (AS in good!!) I can't make those colors for sure by a hand pour method! I know my stuff will always have a niche. I still will disagree that we reach the same ending. As I stated, I can't make some things hand injection makes, but there are just as many things hand injection cannot make that can be made through hand pouring. That is the whole point, the 2 are different. Zoom, BPS, Cabelas, Culprit, Berkley, Reaction Innovations, all make detailed, good looking baits by injection. Not hand injection though, so give them a run. Maybe I just see an old art form or old school way of doing things getting pushed by the wayside because of hand injection. I hope to keep the art of hand pouring alive as a hobby and skill as it has provide many hours of enjoyment and plesure and continues to. When I am not in teh boat, I am thinking up more concotions!! Jim

Simple, then market your baits as hand injected instead of hand poured. To me it still comes down to how the bait is made, poured by hand or injected by hand. Bear, I know I pour mine each bait by hand and therefore mine are hand poured. I have no clue how you do yours pictured. Be glad to post up other pictures in that style that were hand poured as well that are not single colors. That isn't the issue though to me. If I make mine hand poured, then it is hand poured. I get asked why I don't hand pour certain baits all the time. The brush hog type baits is a common one asked about. I am honest with my customers and dealers, I tell them that is a bait that has to be injected unless done in a one-sided mold. What more is there to say? Guess we have to agree to disagree on this. to me hand poured will alsways be hand poured, not hand injected irregardless of the resulting bait. Jim

Kajan: If you read my post, I suggested the guy get a sample of ALL and try them. Not trying to pick a fight, I was just posting what I saw. Jim