GB GONE

Yeah M-F has sinking plastic but Del is right... No way it is going to help out much in going that deep. Not to mention the design of most swims causes lift in the bait. I'm thinking how a cinder block is going to look in the shape of a swim???!!! Jim

Best part of all of this attention is.... The prices go DOWN for all prospective users and the numbers of molds available will go way UP!!! Win-win for anyone wishing to hand inject. I just saw more new items out!!! YEAH!!!!! Jim

From my experience, M-F is the clearest. I've been cooking for over 7 years and have used a pot, burner and microwave. I have tried M-F, LC, Calhoun's, Bear's De-aired, Ozark plastics and Chemionics. They all are "clear" but that is a very subjective term really. You can see a difference if you cook them side-by-side. As seen with the Chemionics brand, mixing the plastisol components properly was very important. Improper mixing lead to a completely opaque cup of plastic. I doubt that the slight hint of cloudiness will ever effect a bait though. Also, with some products, the micro bubbles will affect clearity. You have to cook the bubbles out to get a true, "clear" bait. Just info from my experience with the products. Jim

Now that is what I'm talking about!!!! On the water results!!!!! SWEET!!! Jim

Perfect color for the BIG largemouth down south!! Jim

GOOD POINT!!!!!!!!!!

Come on now... Dipping set-up might cost but just for 10 molds (for a bag of 10 baits) you are looking at $800 + you still need the hot pot for plastic and the injectors. Maybe $1000 to get rolling. That is a LOT of tubes going out at $4.00 a bag. Remember, this cost would be for one tube size also. If you want another tube size, you have another $800 to invest. Dipping would not have that investment. The ease of the system would be the big draw for me but the cost is much more. Jim

Dipping is dirt cheap to do though. Cutter is cheap as well. I'm like you though, I'd rather be one and done. If you have a lot of tubes to make though, you are looking at lots of molds and money. Then, you still have to have the dipping setup anyway. For production, Bojon's methos is tough to beat BUT I haven't used this systems yet so who knows. I do know it looks GOOD and the results are money!!!!!! Jim PS Now, about a bag of some green pumpkin/chartreuse tails being sold to a guy name JIm???!!!

Sweet looking tubes!!! Were those injected with tube plastic? Sure know some bass that would eat those!!! Jim

True. I did sell the one I bought easily. It was a hand pour though, not hand injection. Jim

Not sure what the point is on that??? You don't see "new" molds of other makers either! Molds come out when guys get tired of them or change hobbies. If you wait, you'll see the ones you want. LC probably has sold hundreds of thousands of molds since their inception so many years ago, so the percentage you see sold is very low. (Just using them as example) In 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, you will see Bear's molds on the second hand market like LC, Bob's, Del's, M-F's. etc. Scale of economics really. Jim

Thanks bud. Bear's customer service is GREAT!!! No denying that! I do see plenty of molds out there but remember, companies like LC and Del have been making molds for eons now. I get tired and switch up molds a lot, give it time and you will be able to buy all types of molds on the second hand market. The thing I also see is that they all are selling still as well. My set up should be complete next week (depends on this large swimbait order). I'll show ya'll the mold I will be injecting and my full set up when ready. Jim

Bear: Speed is not the issue for me personally. I can actually do veins and other diffucult pours in open molds with the same speed as single color pours in open molds. You just get a rhythm going like anything else. Preparation is greater on the front end, just like if you are filling 2 injector side vs one. In closed molds, single colors are much faster as you suggest. Veins and split veins are very popular for my customers. I think that is why Roboworm is so popular as well. Tails/tips are quicker for me as I just pour the first color then pour the second. Many are pouring, opening the mold, cutting out the excess, closing mold and poring the other color. Very time consuming. I would not lump all big companies in the category of not caring. Maybe their quality control is suspect but I have been to Zoom's plant, and they care. GY cares. I have seen plenty of hand poured baits with curled flake and washed out colors. I don't think they didn't care, just missed those baits when packing. I am my own worst critic and trash baits that many would send on. My biggest pet peave is not sending out any baits that have to be trimmed. I just can't send them on if I didn't do my job an my end. Fish still eat those though as my buddies love the seconds. I guess the best part is that most baitfish and fish "food" we are attempting to mimic are not perfect either. In fact, the "odd" or different object is usually selected by the fish to eat. Jim

Nice Gary!!! I think Del has posted up regarding materials other than aluminum being cnc'd. I can tell you that pop works just fine.... Jim

This is what is holding me back from trying these out seriously. As much fun as they look and the interesting things I see coming out, I need to be able to reproduce the results hundreds or thousands of times. I will goof around with my own molds and set-up with impressions soon. If I make my own stuff, the whole vendor issue will be a mute point. I have already thought of many things to combine hand pouring and hand injection systems into some things that would be amazing. Problem is, that would be one set of baits for me to take pictures of. To consitantly reproduce the results might take a system akine to Roboworms where robotics take over. Maybe just years of practice as with hand pouring. As Robolo01 noted, I started hand pouring due to the need for some colors I could not get, even from the like of Roboworm. The colors are poured in open molds so they have to be hand poured. (Zbass will see the one that has won me several tournies this year soon!!). Most contains veins or split veins so that is where the hand pour comes in. If the sun comes out, I'll snap a shot of the Amber Dream: Purple I am talking about and post it in the gallery. Jim

Thanks for more valuable info all!!! Bountiful is correct, hand pour and hand injection can co-exist. I'll show off some molds made for production soon from pop, resin etc. Jim PS As a side note, other vendors other than the ones mentioned offer hand injection equipment as well.

Happy B-day Richard!!!!!!!!!! Jim

Well said! Thank you for the pertinent information! Jim