Thanks, MADDOXBAY, I have been snooping around this site for about a year. I have been building baits for about 3 years. I had alot of failures before finding this site. The wealth of information on this site is incredible and the tricks shared by folks here has led to most of my successes. If I ever get an airbrush and learn to use it, I have been told that the fish might as well jump in the boat.