JayBee

I found this using the search feature, I hope this helps. BobP Advanced Member TU Member 3,616 posts Location: Summerfield, N.C. Posted 25 January 2009 - 02:53 PM There are two hardening processes at work with DN. First is the solvent evaporating. Depends on temp but you can touch DN in a few hours and handle it in 5-6 hours. Heat will speed up drying but what the heck, we aren't talking about a long timeanyway. I can run my fingers lightly down the sides of a DN lure and feel how the drying is going by the difference in drag, just like with epoxy. It gets fairly slick in 24 hrs. Very slick in a couple of days. On recoating, you pays your money and takes your chances. I wait 24 hrs and never have a problem. I tried waiting 2 hours, then 8 hours, and got bubbles/wrinkling. Clearcoats benefit from a little patience. When the DN has completely dried, it's about as hard and tough as you'd expect a standard polyurethane to be. But the REAL deal with DN is it's gonna get tougher as the moisture cure part of the process continues. That takes days, perhaps weeks, maybe even months to be 100% complete. How soon you throw it in the lake or pack to ship is up to you. I try not to abuse the bait for a week after coating. Storage strategy depends on how fast you use DN and how you apply it. I dip and am a hobby builder so that's the worst case scenario. I use it slowly and need to keep it in a container big enough to dip from. I decant a quart into 2 tall 16 oz jars with GOOD air tight lids. I shoot Bloxygen into the jar just before I seal it, wrap foil around the top and secure it with a rubber band. So far, so good. I lost 2 partial quarts to premature cure after about 6 months of use, then decided to take extreme measures. Live and learn. Best case scenario is if you use DN fairly rapidly and you spray or brush it. Then you can decant a can of DNinto smaller jars and seal them securely, opening them in progression as you it up. No Problemo! Bottom line - It doesn't matter what you store it in as long as there is very little moisture laden air in the container. But remember, as you use the DN and the level in the container goes down, the void will be filled with SOMETHING.

If you start with a clear KO type bait you can achieve the same effect with transparent createx paints. Light coats are the key to keep the bait transparent and allow the light to shine through it.

The only manufacturer that I know that offers blanks of their lures is Drifter Tackle; http://www.driftertackle.net/shop/believer/blanks-all-bait-styles/. i have bought a few of these blanks and they seem to be factory seconds, I had to do a little work with some sandpaper to clean them up a bit. Or like 152 said just buy the lures your looking for and scuff and paint them.

I believe he means Craig's List.

This topic has been brought up before and another poster recommended going to Amazon and searching wine preserver as a cheaper alternative to Bloxygen. I use DN and Bloxygen but I plan on getting the wine preserver when my Bloxygen is gone.

"I guess one of the things I should put on that order page is a link to a pdf file of descriptions and applications, eh?" Maybe with a picture of the individual colors as well?

This is what I like about this site, you guys are a wealth of great information. I have been using DN for a little over a year. Most of the lures I paint are for walleye fishing and I just dip once for those lures but have recently painted some musky lures and wanted to beef up the topcoat so I went with two dips. I really like the easy of use with DN and once you get some bloxygen or similiar the storage issue isn't that big of a deal. Thanks again guys for the info.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't DN a moisture cure finish? I'm not sure that baking your lures makes it dry any faster. I just dip and hang my lures in a box to keep any dirt or contaminants off the lures while the topcoat is curing.

I have dipped my lures multiple times in DN and had the same problem with wrinkling. What works for me when I use multiple coats is to wait 2 or 3 days then lightly scuff the lure and re-dip. I haven't had a problem doing it this way yet.

I sent him an email 3 or 4 weeks ago and haven't heard anything back yet. I guess I need to call him,