Cub48

I have a hand meat grinder it works but not very well. It is hard to turn and is not worth the time. if the holes were larger it might help but mine has about 1/4" or smaller so make sure it has different size plates. Has anybody tried a blender?? Cub48

A toaster oven will work also. If there is not a low enough setting set them on top of the oven it gets warm!! Cub48

Are u getting your plastisol up to 350F get u a digital thermometer if u don't have one. I have used the regular it is firm and makes a good bait if u put powder salt this will also firm it up and also weight it. But clean all your stuff after your done. Cub48

Most watermelon and blue are not dyes and are non bled. If u want a transparent bait a drop or two will do that as to adding 10 or 15 drops. When i do my blue ice i put 5 drops in 2 cups of plastisol. The glitter will show up in this blue. I also do watermelon red go light on the green and add the red glitter. U can always add more color but if u get it too dark it is hard to fix. Cub48

I set my grill on 300f or less I also use my grill to heat jigs to power coat them. The injector i rotate it so the oring don't get too hot in one place Cub48

The wood worker vise i am talking about has 2 round bars that the molds will set on. they are just the right size for the baby shad molds i have i can put four molds in it and shoot all . The only problem i have is if u have different height molds. u would have to get some spur extenders. or like i did buy another vise. LOL also u dont't have the long bar sticking out which at my bench was a problem I have too much junk on mine. Yours may work great hope they do. The welding pliers i have are the cheap ones that HF has u can set them at the right clamping as long as you are not changing molds u can just clamp and go no adjusting. Cub48

I think u can put table salt in a blender and make it finer, also some use popcorn salt which is finer, I know a lot of people use the Irwin clamps but i have bought the large to small and i have had no luck with them, They will shoot great one time and the next shot will blow out and it's not because i did not have them tight!!!! The two best things i have bought are the welding clamp that are like vise grip with pads on them. The best thing is a wood worker vise that bolts to your bench. These are the metal type Lowes and Harbor Freight have them for around 20.00. Next would be a a pancake grill to set your cups on to keep them warm also to warm your injector. I put my injector on mine while i put the plastic in the microwave and it's warm when i get ready to shoot. and don't set up as bad in the injector. These are also around 20.00 if u find them on sale. It never ends LOL Cub48

My infra red does not read correct after about 250f so i bought the digital probe and like everyone i stir my plastisol with it. Cub48

Anglinarcher have u tried the dyes they have. i was looking at their site and saw the different colors they have in dyes. I have just ordered some new paints if they don't work out i may try your system out. The only thing it might take too much time too brush each mold. I do about 280 baby shad at a time. But a few creature baits it would work great. Thanks Cub48

Anglinarcher so let me pick your brain, do u use a solid color and paint the mold or u still use the two color and use this method to improve the two color. If u use this system with the solid color how does it hold up in the water. I was looking at another brand of plastic baits and it looked like this system or they had been painted. Because of the appearance of the baits. This maybe something i want to try. Thanks for the info Cub48 PS will this power mix into the plastic and use it like a pearl ?

Dells did have one out of aluminum 5 worm like the trick worm. Cub48

Guys i just placed a order for 4 bottles of paint 2 silvers, a silver pearl, and watermelon. one 4oz and three 2 oz shipping was $6.45 which i don't have a problem with i think this is the same silver i have that i like and the other looks lighter Maybe another trial and error but i have failed before LOL When u making baits that happens . Thanks Guys Cub48

Thanks everyone for your help with my silver i will try some of these ideals. Shipping is a big issue i order items all the time ,but when i go to order a small item that will fit in small box and it is over 15.00 i will not pay that, for it i will wait until i need something else to make the shipping more reasonable. In other words i will wait and buy 10 bottles of something instead of 4 If i had known the shipping deal would be the big topic i would not said anything about it as i was wanting to know if someone has a silver that is the best looking silver out there and how they mix it to get it. And my problem with the ones going on about the shipping they did not even add anything about the main question Silver Plastisol color. Ok guys thanks again for the help Cub48

Well guys i am done here thanks Frank for your help with the silver. I will keep trying to get what i want in the silver. As for you guys and your comments on shipping keep them to your self. Cub48

Frank i will check in on that I was not looking for flax about shipping was just stating i can't give that much shipping for just paint i will have to wait until i order something else to make up the cost. Thank u for your replies and help. Cub48

ok so i just checked $15.80 shipping for 4 2oz bottles. So they should fit the $6.80 flat box. or a envelope as for as that matters. Anyway i still need a silver colorant that is silver. LOL Thanks for your help Cub48

Frank here are a few pic's The plastisol is the color that is close to what i am wanting but would like it to be brighter. did this with the MF silver that is in the pic on my finger the other pic is silver pearl that looks more like gray pearl. I have bought 3 or 4 other pearls or paints that supposed to be silver but were not. Minnow silver paint one supposed to be silver pearl and it looks white pearl. That is the reason i am looking for a real aluminum color silver that will be that color. Look at your molds that is the color i am looking for. Cub48

i have one silver from MF it is the best i have . But i can't afford over $40.00 for 4 bottles of paint 1 pint and 3 2oz bottles . when i went to the cart to order shipping was over 17.00 . They are losing business because when i go to the cart to place an order and the shipping is this high i go somewhere else. Because when i know these bottles will fit in a 5.00 post office box i will not pay that price for shipping. i might call and see if they can do better. I will put some pics on this afternoon if i have time. Cub48

When u put white in it it gets more gray than silver. I have been looking on line and the only thing i have found so far is, MF has come out with a lite silver but their shipping was too high at $17.00 to ship $23.00 worth of product. What i was ordering would fit in a $5.00 UPSP box. Frank i am just wanting a good bright silver not as bright as silver glitter but close. The color of aluminum would be great. Next thing i may try is like edgecrusher said maybe get the smallest silver glitter and try it. Only thing when u put enough glitter to make it silver it makes the bait tear up easier. The silver pearl power i bought looks dark silver i tried a small amount and it was too clear doubled it and it was like smoke. The only thing i have close is i have some MF silver i bought from someone else that will make the best i have come up with but 1 oz at $3.99 is the only way u can get it. Next question does anyone know what kind of paint this is we are using in the plastic ? Thanks everyone Cub48

Hi Guys I am looking for a bright silver for my blue /ice . Everything i have tried is too dark or not bright enough. I have tried silver pearl powder, Silver Minnow paint, silver pearl paint, chrome silver is the closest i have come up with by MF. but none is a bright silver. What i made tonight looked more like blue /thunder or blue smoke i have added more and less it is either to low or too dark what i mean by too low is don't show up enough , any help would be great Thanks Cub48

Sounds like either u have bad plastisol or your plastic not getting hot enough. My plastisol goes from white to clear then gel to syrup consitance at 350f , get u a digital thermometer don't use a infra red i have one it don't read right. it reads good at low temp but after about 250f the reading not correct is this happening in both pots or just one? one other thing is your power source enough to power what u are running . But this would go back to the plastic not getting hot enough. If u have a microwave heat a cup up to 350 F with the same colors and glitter and see if it has the chunks if not look at the system if it does change plastisol. could the chunks be color or glitter u have added. The plastic will burn if u take the mixers out unless u stir it. Cub48

I tried to buy the bracket and one injector as i already had the blending block and one injector and she told they would not sell me the parts i needed that i would have to buy the twin injector as a set. Cub48

LOL u sound like me i did the same with my mixers the first batch. Ok here is the way i do mine and so far it is working. I am adjusting my colors for 2 cups per pot and i heat my plastic to 350F in the Microwave i set my system to 298F and let it heat up while i am heating my plastic. I pour it in and cycle my injector at least once to heat it more then start shooting make sure u pull the plastic in the injector slow and hold the injector tight to valve. When i get almost empty i turn the mixer off while i pull plastic then turn back on. When done i take mixers out let everything cool completely then i work the plug out and try to pull at least one of the runners out sometimes the will break off but most of the time one will come out. Next turn your system on and when it gets 200F + turn your valve and blow air thru the runners it will blow it into the pot be like a worm get it out. a couple wooden dowels will turn the valve don't use something that will scratch your valve. Also clean your injector after use i had some problems but they were corrected after i cleaned it. I use the 2 cup method because i can double it if i need to. But most of the time i want to shoot about 300 baby shad at a time. And it works for me. Cub48

Stewber i don't know how old your system is but seems like i read somewhere where Ruper had changed the PID controllers so u might check with him. Maybe they are not stable enough. Mine drops a few degrees then kicks back on like about 2 to 3 degrees. I also read someones reply not here but on another that when they heated in the pots they set it on 350 F and let it kick off 2 or 3 times then drop the temp to 298 F .Later Steve, Cub48