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Take a look: http://i599.photobuchet.com/albums/tt77/gstump1/blades1_zpsdnovtuiu.jpg http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt77/gstump1/blades2_zpsxoz9dwjr.jpg

Yes, it is but we are fishing in the water and main part of that how spinner looks under water. Good polished silver reflecting the beam basically in one direction and less visible under another points of view. White matte silver is looking almost the same white color under different angles from different directions. R&B are using some special technology for getting "powdered" appearance of blades.

Yes, I am talking about in-line spinners particularly for salmon. If I understand right, white matte - it is blades that have color like Mepps or BF blades, only without luster. How B&R make them it is a secret. Matte blades - it is (IMHO) silver plated blades that not polished after plating and have grey tint. If you rub shiny blade by wire wool or sand paper, it is also becoming matte, but it is risky: plating leer very thin and could be easy damaged.

I've recently bought matte silver plated blades from E-Bay. Ugly grey color. Nothing similar with white non-shiny plating from R&B. Unfortunately, they stop sold their white matte blades. Thinking to try plate blades myself but it is requires a lot of expensive chemicals and knowing a "secret" technology to make them White Matte appearance.

JacksTackle from R&B wrote: White silver is not the same as Matte silver or White Matte silver. Huge difference. So, what the difference in appearance and what technological difference is?

I've read that white and matte silver plated blades is not the same. White are much better. Is somebody could explain the difference? Thanks

I've found that the method described by Apdriver is the best. More precise, consistent and allowed to bent thick steel blades. By this way you could bent any metal for different applications.

Color of tail couldn't be only pink or some other. This year most popular and productive color for chinook on Sacramento was green. I know that noise is OK. Question is: how strong that noise could be. I've asked about ringing kind of church bell that heard throw the water. Is it not spooking fish?

Some spinners like Mepps Aglia Long and some spinners that I made are creating ringing nose (din-din-din-din...) while retrieving. I could hear that noise even through water. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it normal? It is known that some of lures for largemouth bass have been designed for making noise for attracting of the bass. Is it working for salmon?

Hi, everybody, At 10-09-14 I've made an order to Fisherman's Corner for some blades and paid by PayPal. Until now I didn't received any messages from them and any parts. No answer on e-mails and phone calls. Any information about Jerry Fisherman's Corner? Thank you.

Fatman. sorry, probably I am stupid, but I couldn't find instruction how to post pics on that forum. Could you navigate me where it is? By the way, at now mine improved spinners starting rotation immediately (almost always).

Increasing of clevis size increasing appearance of problem I've described in the post #5 without eliminating "boating" (plane) .

"Post a pic of your spinner.." Did you mean on Wire baits? Thanks

Thank you! I'll try to do that. There are some recommendations for posting pics on that forum?

My be administrator of that website has prevented quoting and pasting?

I couldn't copy and paste some Word text here. Also I couldn't quote posting. Any advices?

I think it will tarnish but less that copper or iron. Basically silver prevents power loss because it has better conductivity and less resisting to current in the point of contact. Contacts are less heating and oxidizing. Long time ago all big computers had boards with silver contacts that required periodical cleaning by alcohol.

Unfortunately Mepps spinners impossible to copy. As I told, they are using special shape of patented clevis and very thin kind of latex over body. Blue Fox spinners are not so attractive for salmon were I am fishing for. Also it is difficult to find exactly same blades. Benicia Tackle Shop selling self-made Ve-Ze lures but all lures listed above have some shortcomings that I am trying eliminate. The last shortcoming which I am fighting it is "boating" that I've mentioned in the first post. It is looks like nobody has remedy from that.

P.S. It was reply for Musky Glenn post

It is doesn't help to resolve that problem but case another: After casting spinner is drowning by weight first, blade is following and when you start to retrieve, blade turns backward, upper part of blade is snagging to wire and stuck about 90 degree to wire. It is happens very often and fisherman surprising why they are not feeling "tap-tap" until jerk line... Only Mepps spinners have no that problem thanks to special shape of patented folded clevis. Therefore Mepps could accept big distance above of clevis. Blue Fox using regular stirrup clevises keeping that distance minimal to eliminate problem mentioned above.

Hi, guys! I am making inline spinners for myself about three years and accumulated already some experience. Usually it is spinners for salmon similar to Mepps Flying "C" or Blue Fox with blades #5 or #6 and body weight about 5/8 to 7/8 oz. There is one problem that I couldn't resolve for now: Sometimes after casting the body of lure laying over the blade horizontally and stuck deadly. It is riding in the blade like in the boat. I am calling that "boating". I've tried change the speed of retrieving, parameters of the spinner but nothing help. It happens not so often and could be ignored (except that, spinners are working perfectly) but I just curious: is somebody has encountered with same cases? During the lure test that situation could be easy emulated manually: put spinner on the suffers of water horizontally (body in the blade) and start puling. Blade will stuck. All lures more or less are prone for that problem. Even Mepps Flying "C". Any ideas? Thanks

Thanks everybody! I've found that staff: Cool Amp Silver Plating Powder http://www.cool-amp.com/cool_amp.html?gclid=CIWs-c75ocECFQKSfgodebAAjg May be it will help and will be useful for somebody else

Mepps is using colorful tubing with very thin walls on the bodies of Flying "C" spinners. Is it a latex or another kind of material? All latex tubing that I could find has thick walls. Any ideas about source? Thank you

Thank you Cadman! Problem 1: the matte silver is not same as white silver or white matte silver. Huge difference! Problem 2: leer of plated silver is so thin that any rubbing could kill it. White silver is highly recommended by salmon and steelhead top fisherman. In the bright days polished silver looks non-natural. White silver working much better.

Thank you for replay! I mean white matt silver blades like http://www.randblures.com/white_matte_silver_french_blades.html At first: This RandB Lures company has stopped production of that kind of blades and Second: They never made #6 of white matte silver blades. I've called them and they are referred me to E-bay where somebody selling assembled spinners with white blades but that lures are small and expensive. I have a lot of shiny polished silver blades and would like to turn them somehow to non-shiny white silver bades