Thanks guys! I think I’ll give etex a try. If you’re referring to my problem with KBS raven,where do I start? I’ve had cans go bad (I store them in mason jars,have them thinned and spray bloxygen in after use) I use it on metal lures,balsa baits and plastic blanks. I use createx,spazstix as well as mixing my own from intercoat and pearl powders. Ive had way too many issues with the KBS and tried to mitigate the problems with not much luck. It’s become such a hassle that I’m ready to move on to another product.