I have a 4 oz bear and a bait junkys pro lam 7 oz . The bears is ok but the tip thing is a pia . I have been shooting for a few years and it still gets me! The bait junkies is heavier but is better made and smoother to shot. If it's a 4 oz quickly batch I would use the bears, if shooting more I use the Bjs .If I had to do it over again I would have bought the bait junkys first .