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Thanks for all the tips and tricks you shared, especially Thanks to "bass100"

This is what i achieved so far, it has the dimensions of the slide swimmer 250 and has two ballastpositions same as the slideswimmer. i´m pretty happy now and hope the swim gets smoother after some mor detailwork on the hinges.

Thanks a Lot ironbass

does someone have a DEPS 250 slideswimmer? if you put it in the water, is the tailsection forcing to the surface??? or does both sections really fall equal? if so there must be a different density in the tailsection so there is no need to put ballast in to get it fall equal.

douglas, i do not have any problems with one piece gliders or swimbaits with more than two sections! i know that these baits are different. the first just glides and the other swims, right? i´m talking about a 2-PIECE GLIDEBAIT, and the weighting in those. so your first post doesn´t help me or i´m missunderstanding you the hole time

i undersand these things! free hinge weight equal falling at the same rate... horizontally... but, like you say you are weighting both of the TWO sections equal AND horizontally! this is not working when you say, do not use ballast in the tailsection, i don´t mean dierctly in the tail^^ i cant weight them equal and horizontally WITHOUT any ballast in the tailsection, because if i don´t, it sitting in the water nose down! the first section will be horizontally that way and the tailsection is forcing to the surface.... hope you understand what i´m trying to explain^^

so i´m wondering, if the equal weighting to each section is that important??? because if the 250 slideswimmer has no weight in the tail section, it can´t be equal or maybe the density is more so it sinks without extra ballast???

I did it like that just 0,5-1,0cm from the bottom

this is exactly how it looks when i twitch!!!! have you found a way to get it work???

i was also wondering with the deps 250, there are only 2 positions of ballast!!! nothing in the tailsection?

update! 1. changing the ballast to the shown positions makes the movement a little bit mor stable but there is no smooth glide at all 2. changing the hinge system to pin and screweys has no effect on the movement! And when i twitch it is still moving to one side, i think the sides are to flat maybe? like that the high and flat side makes a massive waterresistence???!!!! I want a glide like the deps 250 slide swimmer and this one is swimming very wide and smooth from side to side, and if you twitch it, it turn immediatly like i can see.... so where is this magic happening????^^ should i grind of some from the top and bottom to make the bait thinner if you are looking from the side????

This is exactly what i want from this baits!!! Thanks ironbass

I inhaled Your thread before and know what happend

just to explain what i want from this bait: it´s supposed to be a lure like the S-Waver or 3D bleak glide swimmer or the trick trout by hinkle lures! it is not going to be a glider like a Jerkbait with the typical ballast settings in front and rear like buster jerks (one piece), those i´ve done before succesfully....left to right and so on

just to get it right i found a pic and added what type of hinge you want me to do^^ i just keep carving^^ but scales is something i ´m not patient enough carving just needs practise but bringing the bait alive is the key and the point i have to work on, jerkbaits style baits are easier (i did before)

thats just the hole for the ballast^^

thats my problem, to make the hole for the pin straight and even, i have no special setup to drill the hole. just a handdrillingmaschine

oke i´m going to try out in this order, if one fails->next... 1. try new weighting 2. shorten the tail section a bit 3. changing hinge to pin setup

the joints are moving absolutly free

this is how i weighted them now to get both section sinking equally veeerrry slow

All the way to the tail? How Do Your baits swim with this Setup?

thanks for reply! i read this before here in tu board about weighting each section on its own, but does it matters where to put the weight on each section or can i put it along the whole lenght of those. for example, like it has do be the most in the head, or some before the hinge or right behind or some has to be before the tail???? if you can see on the pic "front view" i tried to put the front screweye a little bit more down but this made the action more rolling and nothing like gliding! what about the shape (horizontal/vertikal) is that oke or is something wrong and a reason for the unstable glide???? do i have to make the body thinner from the second section to the tail???

Hi there, i have a big problem with my big swimbait. it´s suposed to be a S-Swimmer/glider but its not gliding stable and when i twitch it, it always turns only to one side, even when its gliding to this side, i twitch again and same glide to same side, so its not turning to the other side. i made a few pictures for you, so maybe you can help me. i made some different holes for the ballast and tied some variations but nothing helped or improved the way it swims. the bait is 26cm long, 6cm high and it is about 2,7cm wide. i really need a solution for that!!! thanks guys

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