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thanks im there...

if you find a used tormach slowfish..you'll fine that it will dojust fine cutting any and all molds

bob i would think the block is all casted...you have to think in reverse so if you had a senco mold you would take a block of wax lets say one side and machine the1/2 worm into it then coat it with plaster dry it then pour your molting mat'l into it....that would be the first half the wax will burn out or you can cook it out with a oven what you have left would be a casting of plaster..knock off the plaster after you pour in your mat'l and theres your 1st half of your mold.......

they use wax for making investment castings....it very easy to machine ..its a mold process all by itself you start by machining your part or parts in a series then coat it with plaster after it hardens and drys you melt the wax out..then cast your parts with what ever mat'l your casting with...I would think the new do-it line of molds are investment casting...essential line...it leaves almost a perfict finish but with very small pits that I think are making a dul bait..i don't know the whole process but have made a few parts in wax year ago to be casted

most cnc mills and lathes come with software and a format to follow to achieve your program..the format would be you writing a coded program in m&g codes using your print and writing in your sizes ..you start with a zero point and work your lenths form the center line.in basic just like making a drawing.but you use the tip of the cutting tool as your pencil....

how did we get from a little question to a full blown machine shop....? reminds me of some kids that start there first job in a shop run a few parts and want $25 a hr.to do it after 3 months...you dont need any cad software you dont need big dollar tools and dont need a big machine shop to make good molds... hell we are using bondo to make molds so everything else is a step up...that was my thought..but some how we needed cad/cam software and 10 yrs of collage to turn any machine on to try and make a mold.....but only need a can of bondo a box to copy the same......?????...lets move on...hopfully this spring ill post a video showing what can be done at home for the small price of a car payment...

wow wtf did i start........i thinking bob you dont want anymore competition....lol your making it out to be way over the top....if your cutting molds for someone else with a plaistic injection machine i guess you will have alot of time in a mold...im talking a small 1 -2 place 4 max for the hobbist like most on here...my thought was to see if anyone was doing what i thought would be fun to do...maybe make i few bucks helping others out...not getting into cad/cam software and looking for a big payday....just to have some fun with..that was it...your making it out to be as if you need all the big dollar crap like a full machine shop would have......lets SLOW IT DOWN .......for basic molds you don't need anything but the basic package I was thinking of getting the 1100 model from tormach...with there software package.....I felt I could cut worm,craw,grubs and any basic mold with that package and maybe cut a few for others ..not open a full on machine shop..just do it in the garage..when I get it i'll post a few things with pics of what I can do with it...maybe a video to.....if I can figture out how to post them.........lol

im wanting to use wire instead of little eye screws or hook hangers in a few crankbaits im carving...

lets not make it sound that bad...really it all speeds and feeds...bob theres lots of programs out there to program your m&g codes with conversational software....with mazatrol on a mazak mill is all conversational programing now you can eia.or g code it but mazatrol dose all that for you....thats why mazaks cost so much for the eazy programing...hell they have 7axis milling mazatrol all conversational.....

lots of shad in the great lks. if thats where there fishing maybe make one like a shad pattern..and those shad are big....

to small muskies up here run and like bigger baits...8inch.is on the small size but will work 12/14 inch. baits work better..im doing the same thing..they cost to much...im fishing lk.st.clair. for muskies/pike..but the local pike lakes like 10inch.baits big water bigger baits......st.clair has a lot of 40/50 inch class fish....with most fisherman letting them go.....

what are you using to bend your wires for crankbait and muskie baits...and what size wire for just bass and muskie baits...I see there are some special tools out there whats best...?

thanks dale ..im looking to make some muskie baits to...with lk.st. clair down the road a few miles why not....we got into them mid summer and been dieing toget back out there ..but hell muskie bait drain your wallet quick like......picking up a used wood lathe so that should help out....just got to get into the painting part...but cant go wrong with black and white....minnow combo...we got them on f-18 rapalas so that shoulded be to hard to copy..just wanting something bigger...

if you know your math triangles..theres nothing you cant do....I will say I have made some pretty trick stuff over the years and just thought id throw this out there for someone to look at...coding g&m isn't that hard but learning your math is...know those triangles and how to cut arc's and radius is where its and in molds...that's the hard part......

i have a local mill right down the road ..ill try him this week end ..i layed some good pcs of pine on the return air furnance part to see if they will dry more..hobby lobby 25 miles away but didnt know they had basswood..also have a home depot local but the guys dont know what bass wood was and i didnt want to walk around looking...I have a bag of balsa I bought at michaels 15.99 for a few blocks of it maybe 10...but good pcs....thanks for the help.....and mark my whopper ploppers came in..lol...no ice so I had to go down to the lake with it.....cant wait till spring what a bass bait that thing is....thanks for the tip on that lure..i got 2 because you just never have enough ....4 totes, bass boat filled, 15 rods later...all for a few smallies and largemouths...lol....pike ,muskies .crappies........ect.....

i guess what i see my friend doing made me though it could be a good investment if someone was wanting to start doing there own molds....frank m&gcoding a program isn't that hard...I have 30 yrs in the trade and on a scale of 1-10 its about a 3 1/2 to 4.....I have trained many kids right out of high school to teach them a great job...funny about the cad programming we still edit the crap out of it at the machine and only really use cad/cam on the more harder jobs.....I have not seen a mold yet that I could not g code out...its just time on the machine....with a lot of cheaper programs out now you can get a- m . g. code machine running a conversational program for under $400 bucks we have that two for the newer guys and that is really easy for them to understand....well next year I'm sure ill get some time to play on my buddy machine just to see for myself...as long as we get a break in the shootings out in our land....it seam every time some thing happens AR sales go up and make him work more.. it was just a thought.......

bob,what do you mean by low acceleration.? my friends machine moves right along cutting all types of aluminum parts ..was at his place a few weeks back watching him ..Its no Mazak or has but dose a really good job and 10k rpm works just fine..hell he will do 35 k this year in work...making extra gun parts for the shop he works at.. ar stuff....he said it would do just find for doing small molds just sayin......tormach.com if anyone want to look..i guess if your looking for a small mill to do big work don't buy this ,,but I will say it moves well.......

GUYS IN THE SHOP MAKE SHIPPING CRATES ALL DAY LONG WITH LOTS OF LEFT OVERS....MY QUESTION ANYONE CARVE OR TRYED CARVING WITH PINE..? THERES 2X2 , 1X1 4X4 ALL DIFFERENT LENTHS OR IS IT A WASTE OF TIME....I HAVE A FEW IN THE WORKS WITH BALSA WOOD AND SOMEONE HERE SAID BASSWOOD BUT CANT FINE THAT....