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I'm not a plastics guy, but if you search "Dents" in this forum, you will find a bunch of posts on the subject. Welcome to TU!
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Thanks fshng2, that's what I've been looking for. When I was searching I had been looking for holo foil in abalone color, not realizing that the baits I'm trying to emulate were using shell veneer. More expensive than I anticipated, buy wow is some of that stuff amazing! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Found a bunch on Ebay and Amazon, none of it is cheap! I guess I'm used to the .50 cent fingernail strips, lol!
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Not to hijack this thread. but I'm looking for clear "Abalone", if anyone has seen any anywhere? I didn't know about either of these suppliers. I have ordered from the nail shop before, along with Ebay and Amazon.
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http://www.lurecraft.com/Plastic-Mold-880/productinfo/5X880/ Not sure if this is what you're looking for but this should get you close at 5 1/2 inches. Biggest I've found so far.
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Great info Mark as always. I also found a whole bunch of info on glides here as well as a glidebait vid on Makelure.com. I agree with Mark about both sections sinking at the same rate, make for a nice glide. I would cut your bait first and then ballast both sections seperatly with all the hardware attached some how. I put the two hook hangers in first, then hung all the hardware: hooks, split rings, front line tie, and the hinge hardware from the hook hangers, then ballasted each section like in the Romanmade video. I spent a ton of time ballasting this bait to get it right. Way more time ballasting than building. This bait is patterned after a Roman Made Mother and was made from alder wood. I used an eyescrew to eyescrew hinge, like a Romanmade. I made a V- joint like Mark described and got a killer glide. 3 to 3 1/2 feet to each side on a slow reel. 1/4 turns on the reel do about a foot each side. To Glideb8, I will start with I have never made a resin bait, so no experience there. As Woodieb8 said try a snap on the bait or your line. That eliminates the issue of the line hanging up on the line tie and allows it to move freely. Does the bait list from side to side, or to one side when it glides? I ask because maybe the micro balloons wound up settling to one side of the top of the bait, causing it to lean or want to glide better that direction or to the opposite side. Again, no experience with resin, so just thinking out loud. My first thought when I read your post was you had a hinge screw that was off a little or hanging up some. Assuming you have the weights and hardware all aligned with your centerline and below your horizontal axis. But if you made a second bait and it does the same thing, that would make me look elsewhere for the problem. I learned a lot from Makelure's vid and one from Roman made as well as an article on Tackle Tour about cutting open a $400 bait. I'll see if I can find them and post a link. Like Mark said "Glides are challanging" and I think that's an understatement. I got lucky with the first one I made, it swam killer. Made a batch of shad/gill glides that didn't swim/glide so well. So back to the drawing board!! Keep trying, it'll be worth it. http://www.tackletour.com/autopsyromanmademotherpg3.html http://www.makelure.com/store/pg/54-How-To-Videos.aspx#prettyPhoto/7/
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I'm not saying that 2 rpm is too slow, if it works and you don't get runs or drips, have at it. I am sayng 10-12 rpm is way too fast. I was passing along my experience and some of the info I learned while researching to build my turners. Microwave motors are cheap and readily available, the same cost to me as a rotisserie motor, so thats what I went with. If I'd had a roterisserie lying around I would have built off of that. Here are pics of the two turners I've built. The green one has a 5-6 rpm motor and will hold 16 baits, up to a 110 jerkbait or a Spro Fat Poppa in length, on the alligator clip posts on the center shaft. It can hold 8 larger baits wired from end to end. The all yellow turner (5-6rpm) can hold up to 36 baits at once and I have had 16 wooden swimbait rats( 2 pieces each, approx. 1 oz per piece) for a total of 32 pcs turning at once. I had a 10-12rpm on the larger turner to start with, but it move so quick it would fling a bait or two off. The larger turner is 42 inches long total. The lure posts are 4 inches apart so I can get my Sasquach sized hands in between each to open the alligator clips without touching the adjacent drying lures. I cannabilized a microwave once for the motor and it had a plastic drive shaft. I didn't think that would not hold up long, so I went with the motors posted in the link above. They have a metal drive shaft with a hole through them sideways. So I just drill a corrosponding hole in a larger piece of thin steel tubing, slide over the driveshaft and align the holes and run a small piece of wire through both holes and tighten. Drilled a hole in the axle of the turner to match and epoxied the drive shaft in. I bought them locally, for $14.00 ea, at an electronics shop. Bought the alligator clips on ebay 100@$8.00. Wooden dowels from Wally World for $2.00. The rest of the parts were scrap or stuff I saved over the years. I like having an on/off switch for convenience so I always wire one in. Don't think I have 20$ in either turner. I don't know if I got lucky with the way these turned out, but I have not had any issues with the motor turning that much weight. The motor does get a little warm when in use but nothing scary. I like these motors better than the rotisserrie motors because they have a round driveshaft rather than a square one and that was easier for me to secure to the axle of the turner. I agree with Ben about the rotisserie for real big stuff as they are made to rotate roasts and birds and stuff heavier than we would ever try to make. I have used DT2, Etex and KBS and they all finish equally well, although nothing beats KBS . Hope you might have found some useful info here, good luck with your project!!
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Youtube airbrushing for beginners and there are a bunch of how to's on there. Show you how to do lines, dots, shading etc. There are also some threads on here in the hardbait section on brushes and equipment from the past few years. I started with a Master kit off Amazon for 99$ for brush, comp and a few paints and turned out some decent work with it. The compressor started overheating soon and I had to switch to a better comp. What I learned was I wish I had bought good stuff to begin with and I would have had less problems to begin with. Have been using Iwata's for several years now and love them and I just picked up a Cal air comp on sale over Memorial weekend. I look forward to a quiet air compressor now! Iwata's are at Hobby Lobby well priced with the 40% off coupon. A good brush helps paint nice lines but most of that skill is in your hands. Youtube Dakota Lakes Tackle for some good vids.
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I think the common speed for most of us is 5-6 rpm. Someone gave me a 10-12 rpm motor and it was way too fast, went and got another 5-6 and all was good. Many guys use rotisserie motors all the time and have great success, don't know if their all geared that low. If it works don't fix it! Here's a link to another thread with a link to ebay for the cheap microwave motors. http://www.ebay.com/itm/222320073394?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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http://www.lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Lure-Display-Containers/
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While I did not paint the bait in the pic, I'm guessing he used .015 black glitter in one of the clear coats.
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http://www.barlowstackle.com/60-Degree-Jig-Hooks-Heavy-Wire-C41.aspx
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Droll is the word I come up with. Thanks for posting Richard, very informative.
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Welcome to TU! I would also add to make sure you are using 30 min. DT2 and not the 5 min. 5 Min will give you problems and it yellows after a while. You can thin DT2 with a FEW drops of denatured alcohol to gain a few more minutes working time. Learn to work quickly. Lure turners will help level the epoxy really well. The parts are cheap and turners are pretty easy to make. There are some pics in the Homemade Tools forum.
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Click one of the sizes, I clicked on 3/8's and they had unpainted at the top of the list. Just not listed in the main description.
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http://www.lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Crappie-Jigs_2/LPO-Spin-Jig.html Not sure if this is what you're looking for.
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Search "Laminates"
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Welcome to TU! Alder and Western Red Cedar are two woods I have used. Each type of wood takes a different amount of weight to ballast for the swim or fall rate you're looking for. Glides are one of the harder baits to build successfully, due to all the variables, (Wood type, water temp, line tie placement, hinge type, hook placement, ballast distribution, tail construction...) Need more info about what kind of equipment you are talking about, Lure Parts Online has hardware for glides. Learn to use the Search function in the Hardbaits section. There is tons of info in this section, you just need to search it out. When you get stuck or have a question, don't hesitate to ask and someone will be along to help. "Solarbaits" has some great vids on Youtube on making glides. Hope this helps, and tight lines!
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These work pretty well and cheap too. They don't work very well with baits larger than 7 inches.http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Kahara_Lure_Display_Stands/descpage-KLS.html
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They were extremely slow to ship my orders as well and really bad at communicating that stuff was backordered and that they held the whole order two and a half weeks. Had to talk to several employees to get the whole story. Sounds like they have a non-computerized inventory system, I was told " Don't know we're out til the shelf is empty". Good product, good prices, not so good customer service in my opinion. I know a lot of guys here swear by them, I'll order with them again, just have to give em about three weeks lead time.
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Dinger has great stuff and Brian is a good dude to deal with, order away!
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http://www.lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/UV-Products/UV-Seal-Coat.html