saint308 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 To all you guys that sell baits. How do you handle laminates? Do you charge more cause they take more time? Thanks. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Charge the same but lower the count per bag by one or two baits. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 My charges were the same. Once you've done it awhile, laminates really don't take that much longer. Unless, of course, you're talking about stick baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Just talked with the customer. We are talking about Del's buzz frog mold. He will be ordering in bulk 50-100 of each color and will not expect a time line. I just need to get them done when I can. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarakito Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 well, i charge them sligthy more than for single colour ones. cheers, Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Thanks guys. BTW that is a good looking bait. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Sorry guys; I should have been more clear. Sticks are what I was talking about; or better yet; if you are using a 2 piece mold, then 2 colors are costing "you" more. If it's a one piece mold than the extra time is not a problem. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I decided up front not to charge extra for special pours or laminates. Also decided that there would be no minumum bags required. The main reason was that I like do the more challenging pours. Sure they take a little longer but they also further your abilities and make you look at other color possibilities. You will also see that those that request the multi-color pours will be interested in some green pumpkin or junebug and will order a few more bags of baits on that side as well. Have fun Saint!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbug Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Saint, My hats off to you. Its hard anough to do a single color Del Frog, let alone a laminate. Charge em if ya got em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted September 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I liked the idea of charging the same and putting one or two less per pack. However, for this customer I charge by the bait because he buys in bulk. Generally 100 baits in 4 different colors at a time. So basically 400 toads at a time. Therefore, packaging one or two less will not work. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 You might want to see how much longer it takes you to make up the laminates and go from there. I'm sure he doesn't expect you to work for free. Post some pics if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Saint; when folks buy in bulk from me I discount the prive by 10% simply because I now don't have to do all those 10 packs. My point to this is that if I save money the customer saves as well. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Can some explain a laminate and what are the benefits? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Laminates are simply one color over the other with definate separation of colors; usually a light color and a dark color. The lighter color is representative of the belly of a baitfish or some aquatic animal (snake, lizard etc). www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Darkman, A laminate is when the top half of the bait is one color and the bottom is a different color. A lot of soft plastic jerk baits are like this. Also, stickbaits are being made like this as well. Yamamoto has a red shad laminate with a red bottom and a black top (he has others as well, this is just an example) It looks cool. Honestly, that's the only advantage I see with them. Most baits look more natural when you pour a laminate. Also, you can get some nice color combinations that you can't find at your local bait shop. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 thanks guys, I dont pour....yet new question...how do you pour them? i dont mean to hijack the post..just curious do you have to let it cool before you pour the next color? is that why the cost a tad more? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 You have to let the first color cool a little so it doesn't run when you put the 2 parts of the mold back together.(sticks) Then you pour the second color with the mold tilted about 60 degrees. The second color has to be hot enough to bond to the first color. This process is much more time consuming than pouring one color baits. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...