Alman Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hi there to all, I've been reading about crank baits and lures, my main doubts where about lip size lengt, width, and the angle, those are allready covered, but I read someting about hunting lures, and this term (free sliding chain swivel) is not clear to me, to say more I'm not familiar with it, so my question is: How does a free sliding chain swivel works, and how it is used on the lure? Better yet , how can I use a slide chain sliding swivel, and how does it go on the lure to make it work?. hope you can help me out. Saludos Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Alman, I cannot find any reference to a 'free sliding chain swivel'. Where did you read it? Can you post a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Alman, I cannot find any reference to a 'free sliding chain swivel'. Where did you read it? Can you post a link. +1 Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 can it be this one? used on j-plug &other salmonplugs http://www.tomiclures.com/rigging/beadchain_elasticband.htm or this one? http://www.tomiclures.com/rigging/elastic_band.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alman Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 yup thats it!! the j plugs, some link took me to their web page and I read it there. If you use a rubber band does it work? is that the only way to make ir run difrent?(the lure that is). I imagined some other mecanical thing or a rig of some kind, that changes the position of the linkage and maked a kind of ransom colocation, thus making the lure movement "hunt" Thanks to all for your reply Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 It works on most lures preferrably shallow runners, but you have to testrun while rigging .Ít´s often used on Bomber 15A to get an erratic action while trolling for brown trouts &salmons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alman Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 thanks Swede I'll tak anote for that one to make some testing. Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Swede /Alman- Have you tried these, they come in 118 colors, dynamite on rainbows/browns here (I think I must have every color !!) 13gm model is the most popular, cast or trolled. pete http://www.wigstonslures.com.au/# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 yes hazmail i´ve tried the tazzie & at times its a good lure for browns etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 My guess is that the elastic flexes varying amounts during retrieval and this moves the effective eye position up and down accordingly, thus changing the action etc. Is this correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 This setup is used when trolling & the rubberband should be as tight as it can be to hold line at place in up to 2 knots in speed .It changes the action dramatically & when fish strikes it releases from the rubberband & lets you fight the fish with less drag than with the tow eye placed high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Thanks Swede, I was looking a bit too deep there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 This thread has me thinking... Has anyone every tried a "J" plug for muskies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I´ve used 6-7" Tomics for both pike&zander here & they work .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alman Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Swede /Alman- Have you tried these, they come in 118 colors, dynamite on rainbows/browns here (I think I must have every color !!) 13gm model is the most popular, cast or trolled. petehttp://www.wigstonslures.com.au/# Woooo that thing realy moves!!!, I've never tried it, mabe I get my hands on one of those:) or.... make someting similar lol. In the video its troled at fast speed, does it move the same in spinning or casting reel speeds?. thanks for the info. Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Alman-They have been making these for about 50 years. They have a good casting weight and you do not need a quick retrieve speed, troll at about 4-5 Km/h or faster (you can tell by the rod tip). Because they are all lead and plastic and heavy (and inexpensive) the fish tend to be able head shake and throw them, there is a rig which minimises this, I will try and post it tonight (I'm supposed to be working now). pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Tasie Devil rig: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 it can be setup in 2 ways .1 for a slow steady roll set the narrow wing upfront 2 for a wider more erratic roll set the wide part infront Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyJ Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 The video on their website of that lure's action looks like how I would imagine a baitfish high on crack looks when it swims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alman Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 The video on their website of that lure's action looks like how I would imagine a baitfish high on crack looks when it swims. lol maybe those are . saludos!!! Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alman Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Alman-They have been making these for about 50 years. They have a good casting weight and you do not need a quick retrieve speed, troll at about 4-5 Km/h or faster (you can tell by the rod tip). Because they are all lead and plastic and heavy (and inexpensive) the fish tend to be able head shake and throw them, there is a rig which minimises this, I will try and post it tonight (I'm supposed to be working now). pete thanks for the rig. I didn't know about those lures, I'm kind of taking back fishing activities again since a loong, long, loooong, time, lets say I know the basics about lures but I'm not familiar with all of them. I used to fish by hand, just the line 50 lb, a weight,a hook and bait, wen I was younger, my grandpa tought me, I realy enjoy'ed those moments, not just the fishing part but being able to spend some time with him. He tought me to fish with a rod too, we used spoons most of the time ( home made ones), we got realy big snapers and snook, I think thats the name, and sabalos, down in Veracruz, but in those days (back 25 years or so) you could catch real monsters from shore, or rocks or in the river, now its harder, you have to go in open sea to catch them. well thanks again. saludos!!! manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
