gcl58 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 notice the plastic color change when i mixed my plastic. (M-F Plastic). 5-gallon container, put stainless steel ball bearings in container. then rocked the container back/forth by hand for 20 minutes. then put a varible high speed mixer in the container. the vortex in the container was six inches across and to the bottom of container, the mixer ran for 20 minutes also. when transfering plastic to one gallon containers. the color was a off white not bright like it normaly is when mixes by hand. (M-F) says you can not mix the plastic to much the more the better, it makes for a better plastic the longer you mix. i will shoot the one gallon containers this weekend, with a re-mix before melting. has any one seen a better shot of plastic by the increasing the mixing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 WOW!!!! Seems like a little overkill to me as I only rock my 5 gallon back and forth about 3 times and then get after it. I guess if it set for a long time but M-F does not seperate much (if at all) from one day to the next... Maybe things have changed with their plastic but for the past several years, I have only just rocked.....and rolled!!!! Are you sure the ball bearings were clean?? I can't figure out the color changing....Hmmmm Let us know as I will be interested if your baits are the same as usual... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 The 5 gallon container of M-F I bought in August doesn't seem to separate. After using Lurecraft and Calhoun, I can't pour without shaking it but half a dozen times back and forth is all I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think the vigorous mixing effort has created a cloud of microscopic air bubbles. It may take a few days for them to disperse, but when the plastic is heated for use, the problem should go away. Try heating a cup full to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastorshane Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I had to use a bottle brush on a rod to get the 502 lure craft to mix. It was a big mess and a lot of hassel. So under some good advise from a couple of pro's on this forum I switched to MF super soft, and do little shaking and have fixed 95% of my problems. The other 5% are because I'm a newbie. I'm about to order a batch of regular mf for my flukes this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 notice the plastic color change when i mixed my plastic. (M-F Plastic). 5-gallon container, put stainless steel ball bearings in container. then rocked the container back/forth by hand for 20 minutes. then put a varible high speed mixer in the container. the vortex in the container was six inches across and to the bottom of container, the mixer ran for 20 minutes also. when transfering plastic to one gallon containers. the color was a off white not bright like it normaly is when mixes by hand. (M-F) says you can not mix the plastic to much the more the better, it makes for a better plastic the longer you mix. i will shoot the one gallon containers this weekend, with a re-mix before melting. has any one seen a better shot of plastic by the increasing the mixing time. You can never mix it too much, all plastics separate no matter whos you use, its due to the different chemical compositions. M-fs is hard to tell if its mixed properly or not, thats why he told you to mix it very good. Using just a drill for a few mins is fine. Becareful when putting stuff in the plastic to make sure its clean. Just a little bit of color dirt or oil on what your using will cause the plastic to discolor. in your case I am guesing you over heated the plastic, as white is not very forgiving and its one of the hardest colors to keep. my advice is to use a heat stabilizer when using white or at least make your temp the lowest you can pour with. one of the biggest problems that hand pour guys have is that we don't mix the plastic near enough. most of us just shake it a few times and we are done with it. if you take time to mix the plastic correctly you wont have problems in the long run and everything will be consistant. Also when you do have problems you can eliminate the mixing part as being one of the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcl58 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 shot a bunch of test lures this weekend after i did a second high speed monster mix(1-gallon container). the plastic (salt water) seemed to be more flexable (the tail had more action). the stretch tensile strength was better and felt softer to the touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Sounds good!!! Tensile strength is another good gauge for properly mixed plastic to me.. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...