Kamakazee Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDC Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Very nice I guess I need to learn to fish swimbaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Nice job ! One question I have is how you do the scales. I've got everything done for mine except for that. Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Nice!! Are you doing those in-house or farming the job out? Seem like a big PITA to me as I am all thumbs with a paint gun!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 scales - try using fine mesh window screen for a template or similar mesh from a craft store...Then paint or stencil over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrw1509 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Those are very nice indeed. They would work great out here in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 scales - try using fine mesh window screen for a template or similar mesh from a craft store...Then paint or stencil over Hi Patrick, I've tried that. After examining the original Basstrix, I believe its not sprayed as you can rub of the layers of powder pigment. its probably stenciled on to a sheet of thin mylar (or something similar ) and then applied to the bait and rubbed on ??? I donno...thats wht I'm askin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Hi Patrick, I've tried that. After examining the original Basstrix, I believe its not sprayed as you can rub of the layers of powder pigment. its probably stenciled on to a sheet of thin mylar (or something similar ) and then applied to the bait and rubbed on ??? I donno...thats wht I'm askin' Mike you might be onto something, however I have a bait here that is kinda weird as it has the scale pattern over the cup edge of the tail, which that I thought was the last dip. I noticed this cause when you said that it would be easy to tell, so I grabbed one bait, as I was looking at it I noticed the tail being painted and only on the edge. I looked through the rest of this bag and only 1 other had the same thing. the rest didn't show it on the edge. it is 8 scales tall. What I also notice is that the scales on the cupped tail go down half way to the bottom, but on the bait its only about a 1/3 of the way down the tail( since the tail is wider than the body). on the other side of this bait its very faint and not as pronounced but you can see the pinkish scales. My camera is at home, so tomorrow or tonight I will grab it and take a picture, it might open up a new way these scales are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 could it be a netting dipped in a powder paint than layed over the bait? the heat from the bait grabs some of it putting it on as scales? kinda like powder coating is used on lead. Speaking of which has anyone tried powder coating on hot or warm plastic??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Del I think braveviper made a post about coloring his plastic with powder paint once, I'll look for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveviper Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Dont bother....I tried adding powder paint to hot liquid plastic.At first I thought it was a success, I did get the color I wanted,But it changed the composition of the plastic making it stiff and weaker.I never tried applying the powder to a hot,formed bait but I think I will try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 could it be a netting dipped in a powder paint than layed over the bait? the heat from the bait grabs some of it putting it on as scales?kinda like powder coating is used on lead. Speaking of which has anyone tried powder coating on hot or warm plastic??? Hey Del, thats how I've been doing mine and you can create some awesome colour schemes with flip flop power paint. Just use a small sponge to dab it on to the plastic and then dip over it. The powder does not come off in the hot plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Nice work, Mike. Are you using a similar method to what Delw posted pictures of? Has anyone compared the tube types to a solid one poured in a single sided mold with a hookslot as far as acton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks Richard, Del's dipper is the same as what I use. The dual powders are available at MF plastic. You don't have to use much to get a nice effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Nice work, Mike. Are you using a similar method to what Delw posted pictures of?Has anyone compared the tube types to a solid one poured in a single sided mold with a hookslot as far as acton? I have Richard and still am wondering what the big deal is with the tube baits. I have caught fish equally on both and the action is comparable or better witht eh solid bait, so I am wondering...Is the tube swimbait the next chatterbait?? Here today because some tournies were won, gone tomorrow... I guess we will see but I am willing to bet my money on the swim bait with the hook slot and solid body over the long haul. Of course, my 2 cents are worth just that!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I think I have to agree with you, Jim. My partner just went nuts on e-bay and spent about $600 on the Basstrix baits. We have a tourny this weekend so we see how well they work. I had great success this summer with single side Javalon I made. I had no problems with hooksets and was able to use it like a jerkbait in the pads without tearing up. I used a frog hook with them and they never slid down the hook. I think the solid bait might just be the ticket. How well does the tube style hold up? I'd like the try making the tube bait style just because the process is so interesting. I think for production though, maybe a system rigged up to hold twenty or so "knives" dipped simultaneously"??? It's all about finding the time to paly with it. Hey Jim, maybe a closed for "inventory" sign could be in order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 The tube baits hold up surprisingly well. I was thinking "Website Updates in Progress" Richard... Only problem is then your phone and email will blow up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 or maybe, just Gone Fishin' The only inventory I ever have is what's in my boat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 or maybe, just Gone Fishin' The only inventory I ever have is what's in my boat! Same here Richard and that gets "borrowed" by my fishing buddies all the time!!! Time for some old fashion, strategically placed mouse traps!!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassnRandy Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 According to the article in Bassmaster the baits are only good for 2-3 fish before they become unusable. This might bring the price down as alot of guys are not going to pay through the teeth for ($50 for 4-5 baits) a bait that won't hold up super well. The solid ones seem to hold up better adding a few fish per package. I don't have 2 cents in my pocket at the moment so you will have to take an I.O.U. . It's amazing that the modern miracles of dentistry have doubled the price of braces and the work and goodies that go with them. All so my 7 year old daughter can have that perfect smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Probably the biggest difference is in the finish of the bait. I'm willing to bet this bait will help flow the swimbait concept a little further east/north east. Pricing is being inflated by the Basstrix company as they are limiting what can be sold, so Ebayer's are driving the price up based on short supply of product. Give it a year or so before there are 10 companies knocking it off and the price will level out. As for it being a fad like the Chatterbait, I'm willing to bet it won't be a steam roller like the Senko...but it will do better than the Chatterbait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 $60+ for four soft plastic baits.... Not this kid!!! You MIGHT get 8 fish... I remember the chatterbaits going for $75 each.... I get the concept but still don't see the benefit to the angler. My guess is if a solid bait with a hook slot had started this craze ( like the Silly Rabbit), that would be the bait selling for $60/4 baits..... In talking with a lot of tournament and casual anglers out on the water, baits in the 5", maybe 6" size might make an impact in the South East USA. Most are very skeptical of tube type baits down here as tubes are really not used much except for flipping/bed fishing and a tube is known to be a 1 bait-1 fish offering. I guess time will tell on these and I give credit to the individual's that figured out how to make them as they have given us much food for thought and another tool in the boat!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBassHunter Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Very nice work would love to be throwing some of those this weekend ... Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Scale netting--Go to staminainc.com/paint/scale_netting.html $0.90 per sq.yd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 sorry-----thats $0.90 per sq. ft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
