xllund Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 I am curious about this product. Anyone know where I can purchase it? Also, there was a thread on here with a link to some about this product. The only question I have for those of you that have used is: Acording to the info I read, it said "not for outdoor use." Any input you folks can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMAXX Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 I got mine at www.alpineimports.com ,it's under speciality coatings made by a company called ETI, did not read anything on it though that said not for outdoor use,claim's it's waterproof alcohol proof,paid 9.29 for 16 oz's plus shipping,got it in 3 days,I don't know if it's any better than flex coat or devcon but so far I have had good result's Vmaxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskie1958 Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 The packing for Crystal Sheen does say not for outdoor use.? So does Envirotex Lite and I think Flex Coat,maybe? Look at it this way, when something is rated for outdoor use it generally means the item is left outside 24 hours a day. How long are the baits really outside!? I have used this stuff for a long time with 100% satisfaction. It is used by more baitmakers than people realize. It is harder than Flex coat. I saw a post somewhere that said they , flexcoat and crystal sheen, where the same thing. I do not believe this. A simple fingernail test will tell you this. Ijust think it is the best for large baits. I dropped a 7 inch jerkbait over the weekend while testing at the river. It fell directly on a big rock and I could not find even a scratch. One note however,it does take at least the 72hours as noted on the package to harden completely, dry to the touch in 6 hours or so. I however like to let the baits set for a week before testing. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittler Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Go to the Envirotex site and they will have a search feature for sales locations, Menards and Hobby Lobby both carry their products in my area. I have been using Envriotex and really like it over Devcon, but looks like I will have to try the crystal Sheen. http://www.eti-usa.com/consum/envtex/envlite.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 What kind of working time do you have with this stuff?..does it clean up with Aceatone?..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMAXX Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Nathan,I think the working time is the same maybe a little better than flex coat,better than devcon, of course I'm fairly new to this bait making but I guess that kinda help's give me an open mind on trying different stuff,clean up seems the same,also I have had almost no fish eye's with the sheen where with the other two I was constantly fighting them Vmaxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volp1 Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 VMAXX, That is alpineimport.com, no "s" on the end. (Thought I was losing it for a second. LOL) Thanks for the info. Volp1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xllund Posted October 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Thanks guys for all your input. I e-mailed ETI and they got back to me with a local distributor promptly. I am going to give this product a try and I will be sure to post my findings. Thanks again! Does winter really have to exist!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Vmaxx,thanks for the info.,I'm going to get some and give it a try.I'm a devoted Devcon fan,but I'm willing to give it a try..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMAXX Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Nathan the durability part I'm not sure of but after curing about 3-4 days it seem's pretty hard(harder than what i'm getting outta f.c.) and I've only got to go fishing once since starting to use it(work,work,work) but seem's pretty scratch resistant, unlike devcon though I'm sure it will take multiple coats,maybe Blackjack can give some insight on the number of coat's he is using ? I've started with 2 but may need another ? Vmaxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u63405 Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 just got some of this clear sheen stuff from alpine import. got it within three days. anyone have suggestions on mixing the stuff?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskie1958 Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 The crystal sheen should be mixed 1 part to 1 part exactly.!!!! I can not stress this enough.Mix for at least 2 minutes and make sure to mix hard enough to get bubbles in the sheen. I then use a propane torch passed lightly across the bait to release the bubbles. Please note that the carbon monoxide is what causes the bubbles to release , not the heat. Two coats are used by most of the baitmakers I know who use the sheen. I use 4 coats just because I want a thicker coating. Am trying another product by EVT which is called EX-88. I believe it to be harder than Crystal Sheen after initial tests. Will find out soon if it may be too hard(like Devcon) for muskie baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
