bigbass14.3 Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Ok guys here is the question now think hard before answering: Have you ever noticed that most fisherman beleive that the stronger a scent smells to us the better it must work? Now before answering the following question ponder this - When was the last ime you used your favorite scent on your baits or opened a bag of berkly baits only to have your buddy grimmis at the smell. Now for the question Does more smell equal more fish? Have you ever held up a shad or crawfish and been able to smell it form the back of the boat? So is stronger and smellier better? I often wonder about this the reason is we know deer can smell ten times better as can dogs so when was the last time you went hunting and was able to smell a deer walking in the woods? Just a thought. please give thoughts. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 All good points Jason. I don't think more is better, but I am a firm believer in adding some sort of scent in AND on your baits. If for no other reason, it helps mask the human odor because bass (just like your deer example) have a tremendous sense of smell. I have been able to hold up a bait and have the neighbor across the street ask what the ..... that is! Is that too much? Probably. Also, I think it's important to try to match the scent of the baitfish the bass are feeding on. Heavily populated shad lakes = go shad. When you catch a fish with a crawdad in its belly = go craw scent. Never really understood the garlic or anise principal, but it's been proven time and time again that they DO work. My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plt Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Al anise is by far my most requested scent,but I do blend it with with another scent to create a more fisherman freindly odor. But have different scents that I have used that have my tournament partners almost YAK,over all a user freindly scent seems to sell best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookUp Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 I'm a firm believer in scents for fishing soft plastics slow and low for bass. I'll use any scent marked craw. And yes, I've smelled craw and shad - not live ones, but ones that have been dead for a while in the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 You might be on to something there HookUp....... Dead Craw or Dead Shad scent......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskat Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Firm believer that the "More" scent is for the fisherman. Just like all the pretty fins and artwork on crankbaits. Do you really think a fish sees all this on a fast moving bait? Like Al stated in his post I also am a firm believer in using scents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie525 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 those are pretty good points, like rattles sometimes i think the bait companies put too loud of rattles in the baits. i do find a small rattle to help some. the xcaliber one knocker is a rattle type bait i really like because it only has one rattle vs. a rat-l-trap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Fingers Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Hi all, Ok natural baits don't smell as strong as artificially scented ones, however predetors are naturaly instinctive fish and tend react before the think! As we all know fish are great thinkers :-). In other words if a fish smells an incredibly strong and "tasty" odour will it actually consider that its not natural and may present a danger before attacking it? Of course if its a small body of overfished water (unforunately like most places I fish in Switzerland!) then possibly, but in general I don't think it would. So I think I am a more scent the better fisherman! Scents have only very recently, and I am talking this year!, come on the the European market, I have been using MF Anise (and I can only agree with alsworms, who knows what the fish think it smells like!) for 3 or 4 years with huge sucess! I mean I have stood next to fishermen using similar lures and whilst we have been pulling out redfin perch after redfin perch, with anise scented twisters they were catching nothing! I am so convinced of the benefits of scent, I even carry a small food colouring bottle of scent in my tackle bag to coat my lures after every other cast! Anise for me, has worked on Euro Perch, Pike and Zander as well as twice on wild brown trout (which I did not expect!) I would be interested to know if any one has identified the "best" or rather prefered scents for Pike/Muskie vs Bass vs Waleye/Zander? I would just like thank every one for everything I have learned on this Forum cos as the only lure pourer I know of in Switzerland, I have learnt everything I know about pouring and fishing soft lures from this forum. It rocks! Keep up the scent chat lads I am hungry for more info! Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishpocalypse Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 book: Knowing Bass: The scientific approach to catching more fish author: Dr. Keith Jones, Director of Fish Research at Berkley Fish Research Center I found this book to be very interesting and since he had access to the research equipment that Berkley uses, it made it have some credibility. He doesn't plug them at all either. There is a good chapter on how bass taste and smell. He talks about the anatomy of how they taste and how they smell. How scent is dispersed in water and what scents bass respond too. There's pictures and charts. Bass can not follow their nose like a bloodhound. They get a whiff of something nearby they like and this will get them up and looking around for the source. The scents we apply as fisherman do not do much to attract bass, but encourage them to hold the bait longer, lubricate, and mask scents they do not like. A good read for the winter months ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe S. Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 One thing I have noticed, Around here we have a lot of thread fin shad, and certain times of the year you can catch them by the bucket full with a cast net, and use them for bait. They plain out stink even alive and the smell is very hard to get off you. I believe I have probably tried almost every brand of shad scent there is and none of them smell like a live shad, it's a very distinct smell and if someone could match that scent exactly it would be killer I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 One thing I have noticed, Around here we have a lot of thread fin shad, and certain times of the year you can catch them by the bucket full with a cast net, and use them for bait. They plain out stink even alive and the smell is very hard to get off you. I believe I have probably tried almost every brand of shad scent there is and none of them smell like a live shad, it's a very distinct smell and if someone could match that scent exactly it would be killer I'm sure. Have you tried the Pro Cure brand Threadfin shad? I don't know what a threadfin smells like, but I have been told that one is the closest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbass14.3 Posted November 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Hey guys, Don't get me wrong I have lots of scents I use for bass and walleye ( for walleye I prefer Banana ) This was just something that came to mind while I was pondering what someone said about deer hunting it goes like this: You should not GO in the woods cause a deer can smell you and it will scare him!!! Now I don't believe a deer can tell the difference in mine and every other animal in the woods maybe it does smell different but I'm not convinced the deer scent in the bottle smells the same as a hot doe that just went by one hour ago. My father has killed great #'s of big bucks and he smokes on his stand does not use uv products or anything just plain old good scouting. But I am all for scents in fishing especiall in winter with craw scent. Thanks for all info. and thoughts Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...