Heracles Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hi guys! I've been making hardbaits for about 2 months now and i'm using Envirotex Lite to coat my baits. I really like the finish it gives and I like the fact that it's liquid enough not to leave brush strokes when it dry. The only down side is that it's very long to dry. Depending on the humidity level, it can take up to 7 or 8 hours to dry I know by reading all your posts that Devcon 2 ton is a one of the favorite product to coat baits. Since I can't find that product in store in my region, I'm thinking of ordering on the net but before i'de like to have a bit of information. Does it dry faster than Envirotex? Is it liquid enough not to leave brush stroke. Should I thin it with a bit of acetone? Does it stay clear as oppose to other epoxies that turns yellow? Thanks! PS English isn't my mother tongue so sorry about all those mistake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodaddy Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Heracles, Yes I agree Envirotex Lite is a very user friendly product. As far as your questions about Devcon. Does it harden faster than E/L : Yes it dries much faster than E/L and much harder making it better for toothy critters. As much as I've seen it does'nt yellow .....at least in the times I've used it. Yes...you can thin it some with acetone but I would'nt advise thinning too much ( a few drops should suffice) and brushing it on is fairly easy to do but be careful.... it will set quite a bit faster than E/L. After brushing it on it is best to turn the lure either by hand or turning or drying wheel to assure an even coating on the bait. Just hanging could allow brush strokes to still show. After brushing it on you could also heat it by passing a propane torch over it a few times to help it flow and dissapate whatever bubbles may be in it. Just make sure you get the 2 Ton and not the 5 minute epoxy There is another product advertised on the home page for Dicknites Lurecoat. This is a 1 part very thin but very strong clear coat. How well it will work on musky teeth I dont know but I'm sure someone here could shed some light on that. It does work well on Bass baits and it will stay clear for ( as far asI know) ....forever Good luck with the Devcon HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hoodaddy, How thick does the Dick Nite's coating go on? Is it a dip or brush on? Is it a one part or two? What are the winning lottery numbers? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton B Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 devcon 2ton takes about 10 hrs to fully cure and it does yellow when exposed to heat (high summer temps in you car or boat), no need to thin but it starts curing in about 7 min after mixing. I can usually coat 2 baits per mixed batch. I cannot comment on any other clears as this is the only one I use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Balsa Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Mark, I don't have any #'s for you but this might help with your Dick Nite questions. http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9107&highlight=dick+nite I applied it with my airbrush and thinned with a drop or two of acetone (in the color cup of my airbrush) and it worked great and went on very thin and tough over lacquer paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish devil Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 I thin my devcon 2ton 30 min with denatured alcohol. Sometimes I cut it a little sometimes I cut it a lot depending on the application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles Posted November 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Many Thanks! You anwsered my questions perfectly! I'll go ahead and try Devcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Dick Nite Fishermun's Lure Coat is a very thin tough clearcoat. I usually dip baits twice, 24 hrs apart. Dries to touch in a few hours but takes several days curing to make it really hard and tough. It has more gloss and is slicker feeling than epoxy. BTW, epoxy actually takes about a week to reach maximum hardness and final cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondwind Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ya love the Dick Nite...good stuff. Someone said they airbrush it...which would help...the bottles are to short to dip large lures. But how do you clean the brush...and how can you keep the lid from glueing itself...LOL. Hey Seal Coat from Stamina is also very very good...good bottles too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Just Curious, Have you looked in your Montreal Wal-Marts? That's where most of us in the US get ours, so just making sure it's not carried for some reason.... Clemmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Second wind. I always clean my lids with a suitable solvent and apply a smear of petroleum jelly to the joint surfaces. This ensures an air tight seal and the lids flip off very easily. Care must be taken not to tip the tin in the future or the clean process will have to be repeated. Also do not wipe excess off the brush into the can, for the same reason. With dick nites, allowing the drips back into the tin will reduce its life anyway. Over the top? May be, but it works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondwind Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Great stuff Vodkaman, will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Like Benton, I brush 2 baits before D2T is too thick to use. You don't need to dilute it and yes, it levels out extremely well. Rotate the bait for about 60 mins after application. It's probably the thickest clearcoat available, which is good/bad depending on what you need. If you are working in temps below 70 deg, you can put 3-4 drops of a solvent in it after mixing to thin it a bit, but that also extends cure time by about an hour. It's typically hard enough to touch after 5 hrs and 90% cured in 24 hrs. The only problem I've ever had was when I didn't measure accurately or mix it well. I haven't noted any significant yellowing on baits coated 3 yrs ago, but mine don't spend much time in UV light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton B Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Devcon does not yellow due to UV light, it has a low tolerance to heat. It will start to loose it's bond at about 225 degrees and that is what causes it turn yellow. Never use it to put golf clubs together because it just won't hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles Posted November 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Once again, thank you very much for all the answers. It'll help me quite a bit to make baits almost as nice as yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Smith Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 I know there is at least one Walmart in Hab's country.... I have been to it. If they are not carrying D2 the hardware/paint manager should be able to get some for you......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
