clemmy Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Ok, I'd like to know which trebles are longer/wider/heavier than others to help to decide which are better for a given bait design. I just don't want to re-invent the wheel if one of you have already looked into this and/or come accross this info on the web somewhere. IMHO length and weight are the 2 most important factors, although width does play a role. I know you can argue gap/finish/sharpness, but that's a seperate issue. Anyways, I was thinking of looking at only "higher-end" hooks. I figure get all in one size, like a 4, to compare each. I'm thinking several models of triple grip, owner, gammy, vmc and matzuo. Any other sugguestion/reccomendation/ideas????? Thanks! Clemmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie525 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 gammies and owners, vmc's and eagle claw laser sharps are good hooks also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albion9 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 IMHO Gamakatsu and VMC vanadium are the best I have found. You can get the VMC in bulk under the Rapala name from Cabelas. I don't have enough experience with the owners, but have heard good things about them. I prefer a round bend treble to a wide gap. If a fish just swipes at a bait a round bend is more apt to hook it. Your mileage may vary. Tight lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 As I had said, I'm more interested in weight/length from a action/design standpoint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 I strongly prefer round bend trebles and there are lots to choose from but I like Gamakatsu #471's or VMC #7451's. The VMC has a slightly wider gap than the Gamy. Otherwise, they have very similar shape, weight and length. The Gamy's are sharper, the sharpest I've found anywhere. Look also at the VMC Short Shank trebles, which allow you to put stronger #4's on baits that would otherwise require #6's. The VMC trebles sold by Cabelas are a distinct "Rapala" treble and are also nice, with strong wire. Cabelas also has VMC "In Line" trebles with the eye situated so the tines lay equally on both sides of a crankbait's belly, lessening "hook rash" on the side of the bait and equalizing the weight on both sides. Great idea! They also carry a short shank Rapala version. I build to a design weight which includes the trebles and split rings, so hook weight per se isn't an issue. IMO, sharpness and durability are the most important attributes by a long shot and Gamy round bends are the best. Guess what's hanging on all my personal-use crankbaits? JMHO, choose the best trebles and design your bait to carry them, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Owner Stinger trebles are strong, heavier gauge wire, and have a shorter shank, so I can put a 1/0 on a lure that had #2s, and they clear each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPala Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 As I had said, I'm more interested in weight/length from a action/design standpoint... If you're interested in that then just design your lures according to the length/weight/gap characteristic of the treble of ur choice. Other members have chipped in their favourites. Mine is Owner Stingers ST-41. Pick yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 The weight of the rear hook and split ring are at the worst point of course. Why do you think balsa has a livelier action than plastic or other wood even though we add more weight? Reduction in weight at the longest torque arm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
