fisheye56 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Ok guys if I was to ask Santa for a air brush {never used one} what would I ask for? PS keep in mind room for If I get good with one need a model that will handle all my needs if I choose to be as elaborate as ya'll in painting my crankbaits.Little help please? Thanks in advance Fisheye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick20xd Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 The Iwata HP-C will do everything you want and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Fisheye, do a search on "airbrush" and read a wealth of information on different types, recommendations, etc, etc. Or you can just page down to the bottom of this page and see a few related threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Smith Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I have been using the GD-100's from Airbrushcity and have no complaints.... But I just bought myself.... er .... I mean... I just asked for an Iwata HP-CS for Christmas......... Haven't opened it yet.... A lot depends upon how much you want to spend and what all you plan to do with it. I prefer the gravity feed over the syphon..... but that is just me........... Good Hunting........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisheye56 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I did a word search right after posting. I'm in construction in Atlanta and time like I sure it is for you all is tight.I was over-whelmed with the info parts and pc,s coatings on needles wow! The paints, I started out with a pocket knife western red cedar and a pc of sand paper.Now I have a scroll saw belt sander dremel and a table full of parts and cabinets full of spray paints. I don't know what to do the Itwai is 169.00 then I need a compressor and hoses I am getting a little weak knee action going on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Thinking about all the airbrush posts I've read in the last several months, I'd recommend the Iwata Eclipse. Users are very satisfied with the quality and performance. It has a .3 or .35 (I forget) tip, which is just about ideal for crankbaits (shading, color basecoating and details). IMO, the Iwata HP series brushes with .2 mm tips are too small when you want to color basecoat. In the Eclipse series, I'd choose the Eclipse BS, catalog ECL2500 in Dixieart.com, selling for $109. You may find one on Ebay at a discount. And yep, you'll need a compressor. If you have a tool compressor, you can adapt it fuw airbrushes with hose adapters, a filter and air control. If not, a small tool compressor is probably the cheapest way to get sufficient air pressure/cfm for an airbrush, since airbrush compressors are rather pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR KNOW IT ALL KIND OF Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 IWATA.... IWATA.... I WATa.... I WANT A..... IWATA!!!! GET THE HP- Eclipse BCS.... .50 tip... you can shoot small lines with it..and basecoat just like Bob says. Dixieart.com. Just remember one more thing. A happy gun is a clean one. CLEAN YOUR GUN EVERYDAY!! and you will paint better and faster. I own 6 BCS Guns... I like them that much. GOOD LUCK The ROOKIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 There's only one........Iwata Eclipse HP-CS RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garneau Baits Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Riverman-- I can buy a used one "HP-cs" for $75. The guy says its only been used 5 times and is in grate shape. Should I buy it or should I buy new for $109? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 I won't buy a car w/out a test drive... Will this guy let you test it or is this an eBay deal (aka: possible pain in 'da seat of the brain-housing ASSembly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garneau Baits Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 True spike -- its an e-bay deal---- I think im going to go with a new one. I'm only going to use it for Scale patterns on my hollow bodied soft swim baits at this point and have to use auto type paint to get it to stick to the plastic. I bought a can of auto spray touch up paint at the auto store and i liked the effect i got but you don't have the control with a paint can. What is the best airbrush paint to use on soft plastic baits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Be sure and get a brush with teflon seals if you're using solvent based paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garneau Baits Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Has any of you guys used this airbrush or herd anything about it "DeVilbiss DAGR Airbrush". Im going to be spraying Auto type paints on to my soft plastic baits. I found on youtube a master airbrusher that swears by this airbrush. here is a link to it http://bearair.com/prodinfo.asp?number=100484 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I haven't seen one but a .35mm nozzle is a good general purpose size. The specs are very similar to the Iwata Eclipse, which is well known by TU'ers and has a very good rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I don't know that airbrush, but DeVilbiss has been around forever, and was the gold standard of air compressors and tools at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I can't speak intelligently on the equipment used, but wife is at about the 5000 item sold mark and any time your going to do an eBay deal, you always have figure there could be some loss of time, patients, and maybe even money in the process. I would want to make sure the air brush was rebuildable (no that isn’t a real word) new seals and needle are available and not outrageously priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton B Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 the eclipse has two different needle sizes depending on if it is syphon (.5mm) or gravity feed (.35mm). I have both and will not give up my gravity feed brush for anything. Your other choice will be which size cup on a gravity feed and I like the larger cup size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 HappyTime, the Createx AutoAir instructions (PDF format) at Dixie Art recommend a .5 mm tip airbrush. A .3mm tip can be used if the paint is thinned 1:3 with 4011 Reducer, or a .2mm tip with paint thinned 1:5 (yeah, 1 paint, 5 reducer!). I've never used it but per the instructions, it would seem thicker than standard Createx airbrush colors. It also says an "adhesion promoter" (whatever that is) may be required on plastics. Just FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garneau Baits Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Bob, Thanks for the info. I'm a Hand Pourer not a painter so this is totally new to me. I'm just trying to find the best airbrush to use and the best paint to use to paint soft bodied baits. Like i said before all i have used so far to paint Scales on my Tube swim baits is a can of auto paint its called SEM color coat "flexible coating" and it worked but i want more control thats why im getting into airbrushing them instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Be careful buying used........I bought a used brush once and it was so clogged with old paint that I spent a full day cleaning it. If he has always cleaned the brush and the cone tip (tiny tip on the front end) isn't flared and the needle is perfectly straight (watch for slight bend at the very tip) you would be ok. If any of these pieces is damaged and you have to replace it you will be back over 100 dollars into the brush immediately. RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garneau Baits Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Has any of you guys used this airbrush or herd anything about it "DeVilbiss DAGR Airbrush". Im going to be spraying Auto type paints on to my soft plastic baits. I found on youtube a master airbrusher that swears by this airbrush. here is a link to it http://bearair.com/prodinfo.asp?number=100484 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garneau Baits Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 has anyone used the Iwata Revolution CR. It comes with the .5 tip. how much better is the Eclipse HP-CS Eclipse HP-CS $109.97 shipped Iwata Revolution CR 64.97 shipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton B Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I think you could get by with the revolution, I didn't see much difference between the two. I already had my brush so I felt kind of stupid. Have you looked at wildlife colors (taxidermy paint) by Smith Paints. It sprays super smooth thru my brush with the .35mm tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garneau Baits Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Benton will they stick to Soft Plastic and what site do you get them at? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
