stream stalker Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I hear many of you talking about powder painting with a fluid bed. What does a fluid bed do that you can't do by simply dipping the jighead into the jar that the paint comes in? Hopefully this will not be too stupid of a question. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawgwild Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I made some fluid beds out of PVC pipe and use a aquarium pump.. When working right the air fluffs up the powder...kinda looks like it "boiling"...Just believe it give it a more even coat and not as think as when just dipping straight into the powder... I've made up 5 little beds for the colors I use most frequently so saves a little time...and mess...to have each color in it's own bed instead of changing out colors each time.. Scottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkin Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Like Hawgwild said it gives a even consistant coat. Now I just need to make one shaped like a bath tub for spinnerbaits? Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 A fluid bed fluidizes the powder. Now that I dazzled you with that, I'll try to explain. Powder paint is very dense and is compacted in a jar, kind of like wet sand. In a fluid bed the powder is mixed with air and is actually suspended in the cushion of air. When the bait enters the fluid bed, there is no resistance like you get when dipping in a jar and the bait is completely surrounded by powder applying an even coat over the entire surface of the bait. Hope this wasn't too confusing. Munkin, I use a standard 3" cup to paint all my spinnerbaits with the largest being a 1oz with a 6/0 hook, no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Stream Stalker, If you would like to see the fluid bed in operation, check out our website at www.tjstackle.com under the fluid bed section. There are some videos on powder painting that use the fluid bed. The biggest advantage of using a fluid bed is like the others have said. It puts an even, thinner coat of paint on the jigs which means the eyes will not be clogged, there will not be any drips on the jigs when you cure them and you use less paint. Another advantage of a fluid bed is that you can paint large jigs easier. It is easier to dip a 2oz tube jig in a fluid bed then to try to dip it in the stagnant paint in a jar. Using a fluid bed and a toaster oven, you can paint hundreds of jigs an hour. Benjamin TJ's Tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stream stalker Posted November 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Thanks everyone. Now I understand. In addition, now I understand how I get clogged eyes when painting out of the jar and the occassinal drips while oven curing. Hmmmmm..........may have to get a fluid bed in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stream stalker Posted November 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Benjamin: Very nice site and information. I may just have to order a fluid bed from you.l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Thanks for the compliment!!! We are hoping to make the site more user friendly in the future and adding more how to videos. Thanks again and let me know if there is anything we can help you with. Thanks, Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawgwild Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Now I understand. In addition, now I understand how I get clogged eyes when painting out of the jar and the occassinal drips while oven curing. Hmmmmm..........may have to get a fluid bed in the future. stream stalker....here's a little tip I got recently from the good folks here.. When you dip your jig immediately take a small wire and run through the eye of the hook before the powder has a chance to set and harden.. .I just use an old spinnerbait wire and that worked pretty good... Even when using a fluid bed clogged eye's can still happen especially with the smaller eye hooks.. Scottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Here we go again... Another new guy (me) asking for help reinventing the wheel ( or, in this case, a fluid bed). I realize from some of the dates of the posts on this subject, these questions come up an average of 3 times a month. I am looking for a build list, maybe a few photos, a tutorial. If it would help, I can put it into a .pdf format. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish devil Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 to prevent paint in the eyes this is how I do it. http://www.niffken.com/rcvids/ppaint.wmv it cost less then $10 to make a fluid bed. I had an old fish tank pump but before that I used an air compressor with a regulator. I think I took pics of all the parts and the build. If I find them I will post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckslayer Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 It's not worth the effort to try to build your own. Spend the $ and buy one from Dayooper. You will not be disappointed. You will see all kinds of makeshift homemade beds that use paper bags, coffee filters, etc... Yoopers beds are made with solid interchangable cups with lids that utilize a very expensive material for the cup bottoms that is made for fluid bed applications to allow even distribution of the airflow, not coffee filters or paper. I know how much the stuff costs and I know he is not making much $ for the price at which he sells them. See posts in this forum from people that have purchased them. I have one that I use all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Here we go again... Another new guy (me) asking for help reinventing the wheel ( or, in this case, a fluid bed). I realize from some of the dates of the posts on this subject, these questions come up an average of 3 times a month. I am looking for a build list, maybe a few photos, a tutorial. If it would help, I can put it into a .pdf format.Bruce Hello Bellville Bruce, Another Illinoisan, close to my neck of the woods. I have all you want on how to build a fluid bed. Along with other powder painting info. If you are not handy, and don't know what PVC is then I would suggest you buy one from TJ's Tackle mentioned above. It is still cheaper probably to buy from Benjamin than to make your own, with the time you spend in assembling and putting it together. Weigh the differences. If you are still interested in making one PM me for more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brshpile Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I can tell you first hand to go buy one or make it. I used mine for the first time today and cant see using anything else.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeman1 Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 send a pm to cadman. He sent me instructions on how to build a fluidbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeman1 Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 send a pm to cadman he can hook you up on instructions. I built one and it works great. I made a 4 inch one and used a paper filter we have here at where I work instead of a coffee filter or paper bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Cadman - PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thill Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Just ordered a fluid bed from Dayooper/TJ's, and can't wait to get it! -TH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...