robbor Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Anybody using a syringe for your plastics??? I bought 2 50cc syringes but they do not have needles and they are a larger than normal ground glass slip fit leur, I have no idea where to get needles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 See if there is a manufactures name on the syringe and start looking on the web. Find a rep from that company and see if they can hook you up. That said, it may not be possible to them any more. Just about every thing in the states is disposible to keep away from addicts. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickcalderone Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Anybody using a syringe for your plastics???I bought 2 50cc syringes but they do not have needles and they are a larger than normal ground glass slip fit leur, I have no idea where to get needles? NO NO NO NO and NO! I thought I had an original idea and would try this. So, I bought a few glass syringes from E-bay. Heated the plastic to a smooth 360 degrees and poured it into the syringe. So far so good...pressed the plunger down and the plastic had already started to cool. A few intermittent squirts and burps and the plastic had congealed and hardened at the opening...FAIL! So, then I had the bright idea to try it again. It took forever to clean the syringe out by the way...Anyway, the second round, I poured the hot plastic into the syringe and tried to quickly squirt out the plastic by forcing the plunger down hard...HUGE MISTAKE! The glass shattered and molten hot plastic spewed out like a jet stream all over my mold and workbench! You bet your last cookie I was wearing safety goggles and a thick apron and gloves...and man was I glad. I was too embarrased to post that on here, but I thought I would warn you so as to prevent injury. Seriously man, molten, sticky liquid at 350 degrees is nothing to play around with. Ask some of the guys on here...they will tell you...it's no joke and no fun when you get burned. I would strongly caution you AGAINST trying this. By the way, I also tried a stainless steel turkey injector...no luck there either. The plastic cools while in the needle or at the hole where the needle attatches and the plastic jams up. If you decide to try this anyway, PLEASE BE CAREFUL and wear safety gear. In hindsight, I should have just asked my "forum family" here and they would have steered me in th right direction. I feel like such an idiot guys...can you ever forgive me????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Your only forgiven because you finally come clean. I think everyone has a lure building story that they were too embarrassed to share, I know I have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Nickcalderone, I hadn't thought about it from a safety aspect of playing with that molten, sticky stuff, I don't play with plastic (yet)... I was thinking more from a Diabetic line of thinking. I have used my .5 cc syringes to add an air bubble into live nightcrawler to float them off them off the bottom. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcl58 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 stainless steel turkey baser seyringes, alot of sporting good stores sell them here down south. they hold about 15 ounces of plastic and are made from stainless steel. spray the inside barrel with spam cooking oil. you will need along pair of needles nose to get the cooled plastic out. break the needle off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawghunterbaits Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I to have used syringes but no glass ones. I have some plastic ones I got from the local pharmacy 50cc type the ones they use for deworming dogs and horses they seems to hold up to the heat ok but I did notice that when you start to plunge it does seem to shoot the plactis out until the air is out of it. I used cooking spray to lube the plunger. I dont use them anymore as my pouring has became alot more customized. (or I got smarter)I would not recomend them but hey it was fun at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefishing Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 my inlaws used to show horses and they used huge stainless needles for them, my father in law told me they had nice wide openings and would probably be perfect to use for pouring... might be worth a try to visit a farmer or vet or something, used to get his from a local farming store lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifishutah Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Hey has anyone tried the "injectors" from Janns net craft? Here's the link, 10 bucks, I was thinking about trying one but I can't tell if they'd be effective or not. Or if they'd only work with their molds. Anyone have one already? http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/soft-plastic-lure-molds/044020600000.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I would not recommend any plunger type of injecting, unless it's metal. Just a heads up more times then most you will get burn't. I have a couple of good scares from it, and about 800 in dr. bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printertom Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 don't waste ten dollars do a search on here it tell you every thing want to know about jann craft injection plunger And legendary your not the only one with scares i have some good one on my right arm for a router speed control on a drill that i rig for stirring in my presto pot i should have some dr. bill but like an retard i thought its not that bad yea took about six weeks to heal and 100 dollars worth of proxcide. and that stuff only 98cents a bottle. thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I have used the plastic ones and it worked fine for me but after awhile the tip melted off, the $10 net craft ones I could never get the plastic out of it because it cooled to quick, I now use a stainless one for animals and it works great, you have to use it fast before it cools, using a needle with it probably will not work because the small hole will probably cool to fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifishutah Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Much thanks, that's exactly the feedback i needed. I have a good buddy who's a vet, so I think i'll try to get a stainless steel syringe from him if I'm going to use an injector at all. Course, I have burned the hell out a myself:huh: with plastic and i've never used an injector! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbor Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ive heard a few horror stories about the plastic syringes. That is why I bought glass with no metal on them so I can try to heat the whole thing up in the microwave. I need to make some 6" long tips for my syringes though. I also plan on having them on a small hot plate or hot bath after removed form the microwave so they should not plug up to bad. Im also planning on trying super soft in hopes than it thins out better. The guy who made my mold and injected it used a ss injector probably modified store bough ss injector body, if the glass doesnt work ill make a ss one or just a small injection bottom pour pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Bass Baits Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Sounds like trouble to me. if the glass is 320 inside, it will be 320 outside ? 6" needle what at least 1/2" in diameter ? Might as well have 911 dialed when you try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Maybe I missed it but what are you usinf these for? Bloodlines? Try using a hot glue gun. You can make plugs out of baits you mold like a Senko that will fit right in the gun. While I wouldn't use it for my business, you can get away with it for your own baits. It does work and I'm sure it can accomplsih anything a syringe can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbor Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 My mold requires injection from the bottem of the whole and constant injection as the needle is removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawghunterbaits Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 The injectors from Janns r junk stay away from them. And yes the r made to work with their molds. They r very cheap 10 bucks or less they tend to get more plastic on your work bench, walls, ceilings than in the mold and r very unstable. I do have a few of their two piece stick molds and the do pour a good bait for 5 dollar molds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
