champ198 Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 i have been looking at the Fugi guides but i am a little lost on trying to pick a set for my next rod.......looking for a set for a Bass Casting rod 7' in length 12-20 lb line range.....looking for a good guide that is light weight....saw that the SIC guides are supposed to be 45% or so lighter than the others.......any one know that if this is right? and what is the next step down from them if the SIC guides are the better ones out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feldermannLures Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 45-65% lighter. I just put a set of these on my latest rod: http://shop.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Silicon-Carbide/TLVSG-Spin-Cast-Guides I love 'em...little pricey but i think they are worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 champ198 said: i have been looking at the Fugi guides but i am a little lost on trying to pick a set for my next rod.......looking for a set for a Bass Casting rod 7' in length 12-20 lb line range.....looking for a good guide that is light weight....saw that the SIC guides are supposed to be 45% or so lighter than the others.......any one know that if this is right? and what is the next step down from them if the SIC guides are the better ones out there 45% lighter than what? In the weighing I've done...identical frames...Alconites weigh X. SiC's in the same frames weigh 15% less than X. And titanium framed SiC's weigh 30% less than X. Very consistently. I really don't use many guides other than Fuji's but from what little I've seen, Fuji does a very good job at keeping their weights as low as possible. Alconite is the best guide under SiC in Fuji's line. Probably the best bang for the buck out there in the world of guides. Some hardness values of various ceramics... Stainless Steel (SS): 400 Chrome: 800-1000 Carbaloy: 1000 Aluminum Oxide: 1200-1400 Alconite : 1300-1500 NanoLite : 1800 Zirconia: 1000-1400 Zirconia PVD: 1600 SiC: 2200-2400 If light weight is critical, and keeping sensitivity high is critical, then the titanium framed SiC's are the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodtrader Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Nothing really to add, Matt's go it covered. I agree that Alconites are the best value in guides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whackumlures Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 The only other option that I'd add is the recoil guides. They are super light but much more money than a good set of Alconites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I'll steer you away from Recoils. They are light, but that's where the advantages end. They are easily grooved... http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t288/Otterods/Reference/RecoilGrooving1.jpg http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t288/Otterods/Reference/RecoilGrooving2.jpg That's about two seasons of Wisconsin Bass fishing. The first set I put on a customers rod grooved within 6 months. I avoid their use as much as possible...and those photos do a good job at discouraging most of my customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huck Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I'll add an "aye" to the Alconite guides... I don't have a ton of experience building rods, but I've been using them and they're pretty nice. Very light and durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassky Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Fuji Alconite guides, go with the new guide concept system, a lower profile, closer to the blank application for more sensitivity. Bassky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
