saltyross Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Made my first bucktails.Using a method of adding tail to the left, right,top, and bottom and tying each seperate.Ties are too thick. Can any of you guys give me some suggestions on neater,slimer ties Thanks Salty Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Maxwell Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Are you tying to jigs with collars???? Try heads with no collars. Use pleanty of Head Cement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickerel Pete Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 SALTYROSS Try tying top and bottom only. The bucktail should pull around what you are tying to and it will take less wraps. Maybe use a finer thread if you can find one strong enough. Wraps have to be fairly tight. Hope this is helpful. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveviper Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 So I guess you recieved the bucktails I sent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltyross Posted December 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Thanks guys for the tips on the tying Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Thread size playes into how the final product looks and how long it will last. Size "E" is almost the same thinkness of braided lines, while size "A" is much thinner. Kevlar Thread allows maximum thread pressure and is how to get tightly packed hair jigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philB Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi Saltyross Please dont think I'm being a smart **se here but try less hair in each bunch, it is an easy temptation to overdoo bucktail as it is a very heavy hair and you dont need a lot. Also use very high quality hair, the best you can get as this will be straighter and have less tendancy to flare. Bruce is right here get yourself some kevlar tying thread, you cannot break this thread and although high in diameter you only need 2 turns per bunch of hair. Let the hair spin round the shank with the first turn of thread and then lock it in place with the second turn. One of the beauties of bucktail is it is a fast tie. Here is an idea which works well, when you get near to the last wrap, tie in 3 or 4 sword tips from a genetic cape, it really finishes off the bucktail nicely, I don't know if it makes any difference to the fish but it looks the part . philB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancher Man Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi Saltyross GO on to www.luremaking.com , then scroll down to Need help making your own lures.They have a section on tying bucktails.Also a great place to get components for making lures . Hope this helps you. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripercrazy Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 here's a tip.... don't wrap down too tight on the treads at first and use your thumb to spread the bucktail out, after you spread it, wrap it tight.I've seen people do a bucktail in 2 clumps of bucktail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripercrazy Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Saltyross, have you found the 5oz jigs you were looking for:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Hi Saltyross, I agree with Phil here. Personally I prefer a flat thread. I use 'big fly thread'. It's very strong and it's flat. Also use lots of head cement after each bunch of hair you tie in. Don't tie in big bunches at ones. Good Luck! Oscar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripercrazy Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Saltyross,big jigs-rod wraping tread and I use nail polish...if anyone's got asthma, be very carefull around the head cement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Practice and use what works for you, all the comments you get are great and will work but you will develop your own style with time. Personally I tye with large flat nylon thread and one clump for each colour of bucktail I want with a solid knot and very little cement. I get small collars with what most would say is too much bucktail but it works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...