Delw Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Heres the pics of the mixer, My neighbor has a welder so I just gave him the stuff and he did the welding and pretty much everything else. Like I said the paddles are an over kill cause thats all I have for junk stock laying around. the color that attaches the motor to the paddles can be bought at hardware stores. For the shaft get round steel rod min 1/4" dia drill a hole down the center put a set screw in the side . if you want to use 1/4" rod that is fine just get a bushing to slip over the 1/4 rod and drill in 2 set screws one for the shaft and one for the motor shaft. The blades are 2" angle iron flattened out with a hammer Weld the 4 pieces to the 1/2" or 1/4" steel rod. pop some holes in it so the plastic will flow and your set. tools you need are hand drill big hammer welder center drill drill bit tap and drill bit for the set screws( but collars can be bought at home depot and other hardware stores.) for the top were the motor mounts you can use a flat piece of metal, just make sure you find a way to secure it to the pot. The red neck way...... big hose clamps, unless you have tools then you can make them nice and fancy. The top can also be done out of wood with a router cutting groves into the wood so the top will stay in place then just fasten it to the top with hose clamps or something. wood is eaiest for most guys to play with. the paddles are 2" angle iron 4" in length then flattened. the rod is 1/4" dia 3.5" long the angle iron piece weld to this at the top there is a collar that is welded to the 1/4" rod and the engles pieces are notched( but thats not needed) Hope that helps Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Del, that looks like it will get the job done. Just to re-cap: What motor/power did you use for it? What rpm do you recommend? Judging from your stirrer, could the ft-Lbs be reduced in your respected opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I Googled Delw's Dayton info and got"4Z146 25 RPM, 1/60hp, 115V Run Torque 22 in. lbs. 7 ZEM 6025-2 1. 50 5 lb. $77.50 found it at http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/Dayton/3M104.htm the guy brought this motor and the pot over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Del & April The 5 gallons showed up today and we are alls et for the BIG PINK Pour Tomorrow. The Stiring motor came in today at Graingers, part # 4Z147 $77.00. It all went togehter pretty well tonite and have less than 1/8" at the paddle. Again thanks for all your help and much more to come after tomorrow. video of stirer. http://www.dropshots.com/MBroggi#date/2008-02-01/22:09:06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 That looks great! Let us know how it works out for you. What size spout are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 mbrogg Really Looks great ... Could we get a better shot of the "Paddle" is it just flat or do you have angels to it ?? Could not tell from the video (WHICH WAS GOOD) JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 For stick's I'm using a 1/4" barb but it's slightly drilled out. The 3/8" seemed a bit to large and clogged the molds a bit. I picked up a 5/16" and we may give that a try today. Still in testing and learing mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 The paddle work flawlessly today. I would rate it a 11 out of 10 honestly. It never touches the sides and the salt never accumlates on the bottom. The 2 notches are to clear the first spicket I drilled in this first pot. I thought I really messed up when I order the 4z147 motor which is rated at 50 rpms and 12 inch pounds. I re-read Del's report about his 4Z146 which is a 25 rpm version but double the torqueand just said oopps. We poured all day today for a project my daughter and friend put together, Again with the help and support of DEL-MART.com. They poured near 1000 stick all in pink to be handed out for Breast Cancer Foundation/Awarness next weekend at the Worcester OutDoor Show. A very close friend and mentor of theirs is battling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Sorry here is a shot inside the pot. That nipple that stick out was version 1 and after hand stirring and not being able to use the last 1/4" in the pot you can see the much improved version 2 which is flush and bear the edge as well as as close as possible to the hear ring. The nozzels never clog anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Thanks For the shot of the paddle. Looks Good ... And good work for helping with the Cancer Assoc. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendo Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Great job..You have inspired me to go out and get a mixing pot...just talked to del today (thanks for your input!) and i guess i will be ordering my motor next week. I hope my setup comes out 1/2 as nice as your as I will be making it out of wood including the stand! Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 If I can be of any help shoot me a IM. I spent many hours in deep thought of making this thing and have some do's and donts like the drilling, the nipples and the plumbing. We poured a good 1000 since Saturday and it works flawlessly, next step is a ventilation setup. Going to be a pail to hang right over the Pour-o-Matic with a 110v 6" fan, like in computers, with some dryer duct attached. The wood works fine and is even better than steel as it doesnt transfer heat. The small aluminum rail under the track for the molds was getting a bit to hot so the next upgrade will be trimmed, plastic cutting board from wally world. I thought I really messed up whe I got the 50 rpm 12 inch lb motor but this thing will stir 1.5 qts of plastic from jug to 350 degrees in 7 minutes and the speed keeps everybit of salt and glitter perfectly suspended. Video http://www.dropshots.com/MBroggi#date/2008-02-02/16:04:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Thought Yall mite be intrested in this Pot Platform ... nothing fancy but the threaded stock .. 1/2 inch .. using wing nuts makes for easy adjustment to the mold you are pouring. I like this motor set up better than the elect drill (I have another one set up with the drill press) Hope this mite give some one some more ideas .. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squigster Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 If I can be of any help shoot me a IM. I spent many hours in deep thought of making this thing and have some do's and donts like the drilling, the nipples and the plumbing. We poured a good 1000 since Saturday and it works flawlessly, next step is a ventilation setup. Going to be a pail to hang right over the Pour-o-Matic with a 110v 6" fan, like in computers, with some dryer duct attached. The wood works fine and is even better than steel as it doesnt transfer heat. The small aluminum rail under the track for the molds was getting a bit to hot so the next upgrade will be trimmed, plastic cutting board from wally world. I thought I really messed up whe I got the 50 rpm 12 inch lb motor but this thing will stir 1.5 qts of plastic from jug to 350 degrees in 7 minutes and the speed keeps everybit of salt and glitter perfectly suspended. Video http://www.dropshots.com/MBroggi#date/2008-02-02/16:04:28 What valve are you guys using on these pots? 1/4" all brass ball valve? Is there any other fittings that you need for the valve to go in the pot or for pouring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorlings Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 How did you make the valve flush on the inside of the pot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I'm using a 3/8 Ball Valve and after I tap the pot 1 just tread in the 1/4" nipple see how many threads are sticking up remove it and cut them off and smooth it out with a file. 1/4 valve is too small and 1/2 is overkill. Got to keep the plumbing as effiicent as possible so heat transfer is good and it will never ever clog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcl58 Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 go to grainger.com and look at the reduction gear motors. with the reduction gear you are not loading up the motor. they have some really small motors with low rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 This is the motor and stirring assembly. http://www.dropshots.com/MBroggi#date/2008-02-18/18:49:56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squigster Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Really nice setup. Could you tell me if the motor is the 4z147 or the 4z146? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I'm using a newer version, 1LNG1 .... Graingers just updated many of these type motors, To bad the old version was clearanced at $45.00 but are all sold out. 1LNG1 is a 50 RPM 1/45 HP over the 4Z147's 1/60 HP, torque rating is just about double of 4z147 $80.80 + tax and shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAE73 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I have a question, as you are pouring and using the stirrer are you throwing the spurs or remelts back in the pot? I am curious if they would cause any problems? With getting clogged in the pour spout or pinching between the bottom of the pot and stirrer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Hey guys.... Do you think this motor will work for a presto pot stirrer? Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail Seems to have all the attributes needed and the price is right!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 RPM and base all look good same design I use You do see its a 220V motor.. Just wire it for that and its good. Will not work on a standard house receptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear21211 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Jim It is a 220 V Motor and it is a 64 rpm motor.Will it work more than likely and yes the price is awesome. This is just what I have found from trying different rpm motors and paddle designs. When I was using the 50 rpm motors with 2 blade paddle I was getting little micro bubbles throughout my plastics.I have since went to a 25 rpm motor with a 4 blade paddle and now my plastic is much clearer . I do think the motor would work Just wish it were a little slower. Another thing if you look to see if they have the 120 V motor watch your Torque Good Find Jim Hey guys.... Do you think this motor will work for a presto pot stirrer?Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail Seems to have all the attributes needed and the price is right!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Guess I could go with one like this? Less rpms and a far better motor it appears. Had a friend refer me to this site as they get in different motors all the time. Burden Sales Surplus Center Item Detail Less rpms but the wiring is different. I am just looking for something inexpensive as I only use my pot once a month. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
