GASMAN Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Where can I buy the tubing that they cut and use for collars to make rubber skirts? What size is used? Does anybody have any for sale? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Surgical tubing may work but I don't know if it's the same........Why don't you just buy collars though? You can get a thousand of them for under $30. Worth the time saved, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASMAN Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I thought it might be cheaper if I am making lots of skirts. Anybody have any of the tubing or know where I can buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 GASMAN. While the surgical tubing amy work, your going to have to find a supplier. Stamina has the tubing $24.00 to $33.00 for 1/8" tubing x 50', collars $2.00 / 100. If you cut them yourself, you'll have to make sure that you get enough collars out of your materials to make cost effective. The step of cutting each one just doesn't seem like the best use of time. You also have to get some sort of skirt maker that will speed up that process as well. Hand made is one thing, but it has to be cost effect to be profitable. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASMAN Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Ok thanks. I bought some collars and did not like the amber ones that I got. That is why I was looking for something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 GASMAN said: Ok thanks. I bought some collars and did not like the amber ones that I got. That is why I was looking for something else. I agree about the regular rubber skirt collars. They suck and dry rot very quickly. I use the rattle holding ones, that look like mickey mouse. They don't stretch as well as the other ones, but I have plenty that are two years old and look just like the day I made the skirt. Not dry rotting like the regular ones. If you don't want to use the rattles, you can just cut the ear things right off and it won't afffect the collar one bit. It'll actually make it easier to make each skirt. Only drawback is that they only come in black. Doesn't bother me, but it does bother some people. Even on a clear skirt I don't mind it.....makes a nice kill spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASMAN Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Don't they get a little pricy, using them. Anybody have any auburn colored collars at a decent price. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkin Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The regular amber collars do dry rot faster than the other colors. The make those collars in white, black, chartreuse, red maybe other colors? I prefer the black ones as they seem to be stronger. Those mickey mouse looking ones are nice if you want to add rattles but I would suggest a drop of super glue gel to keep them on. Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASMAN Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Ok, thanks, anybody on here sell any of the collars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Have tried the Surgical Tubing Route .... Bad JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASMAN Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Well, you have to be able to buy the stuff somewhere, guess it is a guarded secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 GASMAN said: Well, you have to be able to buy the stuff somewhere, guess it is a guarded secret. Either that or it's not cost effective unless you're making millions of them at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASMAN Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 clamboni said: Either that or it's not cost effective unless you're making millions of them at a time. I guess your right. Anybody got any skirts they want to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommfshmn Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Order the Janns Netcraft catalog.They have the collars that you are looking for. www.jannsnetcraft.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASMAN Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 sommfshmn said: Order the Janns Netcraft catalog.They have the collars that you are looking for. www.jannsnetcraft.com Thanks, I will check into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTDuckman Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Charles at www.fishingskirts.com could probably sell you collars at a good price. You should be able to get collars for about $25/1k. As far as the dry rot thing goes, that gets me thinking. I am in the waterfowl supply business and in the premium call making business, silicone o-ring lube is the industry standard for keeping o-rings fresh and pliable (o-rings are used to seal the 2 main portions of a goose call). Scuba gear supply places sell this stuff for sealing underwater equipment. The stuff is only about $3 for a 2 oz container which would probably lube hundreds if not thousands of collars and should extend the life of a collar significantly (years). They will extend the life of o-rings in a call for 5 years or so of heavy use. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 TTDuckman. Does the fact that there is normally pressure sealing an o-ring play into the equation? Does it matter if the o-ring is silicon or rubber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTDuckman Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I believe it is more of a conditioner to the o-ring more than anything else. I believe that most of the o-rings used for calls are rubber (keeping it soft and durable). Without something on them, they will shrink and harden. Some people use chapstick too, but petroleum products on o-rings is a bad idea (it works fine as a lube at first, but will speed the dry/cracking process up). As far as the pressure aspect, they really aren't under much of a pressure (about the same as a spinnerbait skirt would be when on a head). In a call, they keep the call together and keep air from coming out of the call at the center joint, forcing it to go through the tone channel and out the exhaust barrel. I know this is way out of the discussion of making wire baits, but I know more about the construction of a goose call than a potential use for the silicone lube in collars. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
