hazmail Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 There is (was) a tree in Tasmania, a Giant Ash, discovered in the 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 It is really sad. hundreds of years of growth to make toilet paper! It's the same, well, much worse in Indonesia. They burn down forests of teak and other exotics to make burgers for McDonalds! So sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I heard another tree mentioned in the same interview (on radio) down there, it's only 10meters (30') high, but has suckers 5 kilometers away (3 miles), the parent tree is estimated to be ----- GET this----------45,000 yrs old, amazing place Tasmania. pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Is there a place to see a picture of this 45,000 yr old tree. Can you imagine what that tree has seen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Kelly- I will see what I can find. pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Kelly -I found these articles, but it seems the 45000 yr old tree was just hype, worth reading anyway. They use some of this timber (Huon Pine) in furniture and wood turning, beautiful stuff, it is that fine grained it’s like plastic, blond /honey color. http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i3/living_tree.asp Looks like a plant called Kings Holly takes the cake for the oldest living plant, again in Tasmania – a clonal colony of 43000 yrs (see last paragraph here) http://isaac.org.au/info/bigtrees.htm There are some pretty prehistoric things down there, including some of the people. pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveviper Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 It is really sad. hundreds of years of growth to make toilet paper!It's the same, well, much worse in Indonesia. They burn down forests of teak and other exotics to make burgers for McDonalds! So sad. They use teak in burgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thank you! Do we want to know what they put in there burgers? There is times I wonder if it beef. Cant hardly eat the grease any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 A kitchen table made from that fallen tree would be beautiful! Cant imagine the price tag that could put on that and still sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I just remember reading somewhere that the forests are cleared to grow feed for the beef stock. The really annoying thing is that the fertile ground is only good for a few years. Indonesia is one of the last remaining countries with such a wealth of natural resources and abundance of wildlife. Unfortunately, despite it's massive mineral wealth, which brings huge riches to the country, it's population is very poor. There is no social support and it is basically every man for himself. People have large families in the hope that at least one of the children will be able to look after them in old age. The point of this sob story is that you can understand why saving the planet is way down low on their list of priorities. For most, the top priority is finding the next meal. I love the place and the people and plan to spend my future there. I hope one day to set up a small lure production there and bring a little employment to a few. We all gotta dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 It is a double edged sword. By cutting down the trees we loose the ability to produce oxegen and by clearing the land for cattle, we are adding to the greenhouse gas problem. We need a movement, well, not that kind of movement, to return to using only leaves and other plant matter to "freshen up" and stop breading cattle and just eat sea weed or something else "Green"... I like green eggs and ham Sam I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I just truly love the out doors and to see old growth trees is amazing to me. I wish I could be there to see the growth rings on the fallen tree since it might be the only chance I would have in a lifetime. I truly hope the other trees out live use and thay can tell some of our stores in the growth. PS I LOVE MEAT!!!and fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
