Whiz Jig Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I want to buy a Do-It mold to make weedless jigs, but I don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1shot Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I like the Arkie with the turned eye ARK-3-AFC. The hook that the do-it sight recommends is the wrong hook for that mold. They recommend a Mustad 32786 BLN which is NOT a turned eye. That mold needs a Mustad 32798 BLN. I informed Do-it of this but they havent changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilcraw Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have fish and have built jigs for near 30 years now and the best by far for heavy cover is the bullet head jig. I do modify Do-it molds to take a flat eye it seems the flat eye will come OVER debri alot better, as far as hook setting and flat eye has a more positive hookset then a reg eye. I use all Gama hooks so can't point you to a good Mustad, I use the Gama 48414 which is an awesome hook nice wide gap and a strong hook, just my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiz Jig Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Where do you get the Gama 48414? I can't find it. Or is it I don't know to break this number up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDC Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I like to flip the Arky Flateye jig with the Mustad 38109 hook or the Round Flateye with the Mustad 32798. The flat hook eye is inline with the leading edge of the jig head which allows it to slide over obsticles very nicely. The 60 deg flateye also transfers more power to the point. Now I'm gonna get reamed big time for this but, The Mustad Ultra Point hook is a much better hook than Gamakatsu. There I said it out loud. First, the point is cone shaped which gives it even support around the entire diameter allowing it to remain sharper longer. The Gammy needle points bend over leaving you with a blunt edge the first time they hit anything hard (like the top jaw of a bass, which is normally where the upturned point of a jighook hits first). Second, the barb, which actually 'catches' the fish is closer to the point and deeper than any hook on the market (go ahead, go look). The next hook as far as the barb being close to the point is Daiichi and they have a pretty deep barb. VMC hooks have a deep barb but they are probably the farthest from the point than any other. Yes, Gamakatsu hooks are sharp as hell out of the package, but they dull fast and have a tiny shallow barb. So I'll take the public thrashing, but I'll also continue to get almost three times the hooks for the money and have better hook-ups too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToad Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I'm also new at this and shopping for weedless jig molds, but I think I'm going to go with the football jigs. I'll probably get the Do-it mold, but I wish they had one with a recessed eye on it. BPS sells a jig with a recessed hook eye, and it really helps it keep from getting hung up. Anybody know of a mold like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiz Jig Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 This is what Do-it emailed me: You are absolutely right. The three jig models that you have mentioned are very similar with only slight differences. Their wide design helps to keep them from rolling or turning on their side. Weedless Sparkie Jig: This is probably the widest of the three. You will notice that the hook eye on this jig comes out much more toward the front than the others. This forward balance lends it self to dragging the jig on the bottom or swimming the jig through the water. Some people prefer y-guards over fiber guards. This mold will accept either. Style "S" Bass Jig: This jig is slightly narrower and the hook eye comes out a bit higher on the jig. The balance on this jig allows the back of the hook to rise up, off the bottom when the jig is "rocked" similar to a Football Jig. It also accepts either fiber guards or y-guards. The Eagle Claw style 730 hook for which it is designed is one of Eagle Claws strongest tempered hooks and sports a slightly larger throat than the O'Shaughnessy style 410 for which the Sparkie Jig is designed. The Arkie Style Jig: This Jig is very similar to the Style "S" with some small improvements. It is slightly wider, and tends to fall more slowly and horizontally because of this. The double holder collar tends to hold skirts and plastics or buck tails a little better than the old fashioned ball collar of the others. The Mustad Premium Black Nickel hook is one of the strongest on the market. The turned eye on the hook helps with hook ups and lends a bit more power to hook sets. All three of these jigs are very good when fished in cover. Which jig to use is purely a matter of personal preference. At this point we consider the #3387 Arkie Jig mold to be the best all around weedless jig of the three. We hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToad Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thanks for sharing that email. I'm still going to get a football jig mold, but I've also been looking into tying my own float and fly jigs, and those "S" style seem to me to be the best fit for that. So now, which type of weedguard do you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToad Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 So which one have you settled on? Or have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawgwild Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 So now, which type of weedguard do you like? I've used the Y type guards but they tend to be a little stiffer than I like but work fine... I still prefer the fiber guards...I just like to spread the fibers out which still gives plenty of protection coming through stuff but not to stiff on hookset.. They're cheap so I would suggest you try both to see which you prefer better.. Scottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbor Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 practice will help with getting em out. I always had luck with dropping the jig back down and then jiggling when I feel resistance. My fishing buddy can ruin lures fast as lightening, he feels resistance and has no idea whether its a fish or not and he pulls harder until he hangs and then bends lures. I was always told jerks are free:lolhuh:, until I thought I felt a fish and set the hook into the bottom of a log 10' down, live and learn. Id probably get both a flat eye and football. You can always sell the one you dont like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiz Jig Posted January 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 It looks like I will get the Arky flat eye, Football flat eye and Poision Tail. I plan on turning the Poison Tail into a flat eye. It will be awhile until I get to it. Too many things going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbor Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Although the poison tail looks good that is the one style of hook I heard a jig fisherman say that he stays away from. If you read enough you will hear about people bending hooks out for better hookups, the poison tail has a hook pointed far inward. Im sure they work but not need with 2 other jigs. I worked with a die hard jig fisherman, really good, supposedly won about 11 or 12 club tournaments in a row, I only saw him throw footballs. have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...