Senkosam Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Back again, to update everyone on the 'Glitter Guy's' findings. I found a few companies that will sell glitter to me at a price that will allow me to sell to you cheaper than from LC. One site has 47 colors to chose from and many size categories. The coated polyurethane can cook in temps up to 375. In order for me to get a decent price, I must order in lots of 10lbs. per color/size. Since there are at least ten standard colors we use and 3 basic sizes, I would have to invest in at least 270-300 lbs. of glitter to start. If the demand continued, the variety would increase. I usually run out of various colors of glitter long before I run out of plastic, so paying high S&H for a few a few colors or sizes of glitter, is not my idea of economical. The colors I would invest in are as follows: black, silver, gold, green, chartreuse, purple, red, blue, copper and orange (holograph if enough demand) sizes: .008, .035, .062 and string Price per oz. would be less than any source you currently have, plus S&H would be less due to cheaper packaging and mailing due to weight reduction. (plastic bags versus bottles; mailing envelopes versus boxes.) My only question before I invest in this is, is there a demand? Do most of you sell enough lures to warrent a change in glitter suppliers, especially if: 1. you get what you need at a cheaper price 2. you don't worry about getting ripped off (being sent something you didn't order and being told to send it back for credit) 3. you can order any amount of any color/size for a set per-ounce price Your preferences as far as size, shapes, other colors, amounts usually needed, etc.? Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Splash Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 My order would be small- for now-but I'll order from you if you can deliver as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlizard Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 We would probably order around 1/2 lb of each color ( maybe more over the next year. I hope its more, because that means we are selling alot of Huffers..lol However one thing I would really like is if you can mix the sizes for us for the same price. That would make it really cool. With that many colors to choose from and at a great price with guaranteed service. I would think you have a winning situation. It might take some time to get your name out there as the go to glitter guy, but we will help you any way we can, and I am sure everyone else around here will as well. Just look at the success Del is having. I am sure alot of it is because all of us have put his name in anywhere possible to get him business. I think it will work out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper lures Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I will buy from you also but I don't buy large amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I would cary more glitters if they had a wider selection. I personaly love the holograph glitters. Let me know if yo do start this up I will buy from you. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I use all those colors Sam. When you get the figures down, I'd like to see some prices on 1/2 pound and pound sizes. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmang Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I would be interested too. I like the pre-mix option like you mentioned about the Daquiri blend and also the holographic colors. The different sizes also interest me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted November 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 The company is sending specifics as to sizes that hexagonal versus square come in and the number of sizes (8 minimum). Mixing colors in a customer dictated ratio would be a no brainer and would still be offered at a simple price per ounce. The company, in fact, said they could offer any color flake ever produced for soft plastics and special order it, as long as I ordered in 10 lb. increments. Again, once I figure out my overhead cost (i.e. my S&H cost for 300-400 lbs. and your minimal S&H costs, I'll post the price per oz. I'm moving in about a month and must make sure closing and moving costs are covered, but this will take place after the new year, if not sooner. Sam, the GlitterGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docirv Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I am with you, Glitter Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshManiaC Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 If you need some server space for a website and/or a website built, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cflbasser Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I'm just getting into pouring my own worms and will need to buy some glitter in the near future. So, you can count me in... plus S&H would be less due to cheaper packaging and mailing due to weight reduction. (plastic bags versus bottles; mailing envelopes versus boxes.) Just an idea... You may want to make sure you seal the plastic bags good. I would hate to open a mailing envelope full of glitter because the inner plastic bag either got busted in the mail or the ziploc came undone... No what I mean... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 I'd be interested in some relatively small amounts of the standards; black, silver, gold, red, green, purple... black in medium or large size, most everything else in small. Let me know when you get ready to roll! - Tristan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted December 22, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Will hopefully be a supplier in Jan. Just moved my entire house to another location and the only thing I can think about is my aching body! LOL Everything still has to be put away and organized. Sam The Glitter Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 I've tested two comany's glitter and found that the flakes curl. Is it that the flakes aren't heat resistant or is my plastic temp. too hot? The flakes look great in the plastics, but size and shape must be maintained. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 I have over heated plastics before and the glitter can and will shrink, deform and all but desolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassgreg Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Senkosam, What is the latest on the glitter business? Are you up and running yet? I am looking to restock some colors and would like to use you as my supplier. Thanks, Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted March 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 I'm waiting for one more sample in .040 to test for heat tolerance and color retention. If anyone goes over 350 degrees, the flakes curl considerably and I don't want 300 lbs of glitter that no one will buy. Give me an idea of sizes and colors you use. Soon I'll be sending samples to everyone to try. The ultimate problem is the microwave because timing is critical when there isn't a thermostat to regulate temp. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskat Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 I'll be needing glitter soon myself. Keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cflbasser Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 Ditto here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlizard Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Sam, We are getting low on some colors as well. Be interested in the fine flake. Let me know when you can send a sample. (wont need much just a couple table spoons) Hopefully we can do business with you... John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Sam, Using purple, blue, gold, silver. But interested in lots of other colors,like Flo. colors. I am using it in paint jobs, so heat is not my problem. But solvent resistance is. Some types loose all color in the paint and become little clear scales. In need need fine flake. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Got a small order from LC. First time buying from them. Like 4 out of the 5 colors I got, and it works well for what I am using it for. But the purple doesn't fit my needs. Anybody out there need purple fine 4oz. Sam looking to buy Lbs soon. Keep us up dated on your statis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&M Worms Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 I too would Buy from you.since you live a couple of miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted March 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 Free sample to be sent to everyone for testing. I'm going to send out samples of one color in .040 for everyone to test. I assume everyone uses black flake, so I'll order 10 lbs. and get your responses. If there is a consensus on another favorite color, e-mail me and I'll send it instead, otherwise black is what you'll get. The feedback I need from those participating is: 1. heat tolerance to 250 degrees. Most plastics don't require even that much heat and anything over will curl flakes badly, if not melt them. Remelting old plastic with glitter, will almost certainly destroy the glitter and require more to be added. 2. Colors and sizes in those colors. Check out the color selection on page one. Also indicate whether you would use string glitter. I like it and could get it in a size larger than LC. 3. Indicate if you would like premixes (in whole oz. parts). i.e. red:black:green in .015 ; 3oz. red+ 1 oz black + 2 oz. green = 6oz total. 4. Holographic glitter is the same price as LC. I haven't found a distributor that sells it cheaper, so it would be the same price through me. If the demand is there, I'll stock it. Also, e-mail me your name and address. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charkins Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 I think a color would be much better, because it will show the durability to heat better than black would. Just my opinion. Everyone has one, some just smell worse than others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
