waterweasle Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 just got a frog mold and looking for input on what you guys think the best floating plastic out there is, I"m using calhouns medium formula now, and it sinks. I know del has the SUPER FLOATING PLASTIC, but the use of it scares me, as per the directions of having to whip(stir) it like crazy............................... so what to do????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Water weasel for a floating plastic like what you would use in frogs, you would need to add the 3m glass bubbles, it only takes a few. I should have done a better description of the floating plastic we sell as it is confusing. The floating plastic we sell is the 3m bubbles already mixed into some plastic. I won't sell the 3m glass bubbles by them selves cause they are an absolute mess to deal with. You also should wear a reparator when using them in the dry state. its much easier to work with when its in a liquid state. not to mention when cooked in the pure state you get only opaque colors due to it looks almost pure white when cooked. when using as an additive you can use more transparent colors. we sell it more as an additive as the only way it can be cooked is via a heat exchanger. It can be cooked via the microwave or a pot, but a hand pourer can not really tell when its cooked properly. as with a heat exchanger they really don't need to look at the plastic to tell if its cooked, they just shoot it and go. The best way is to take a tea spoon or table spoon of the floating plastic and mix it with your regular plastic, My advice is to cook your regular plastic then take a tablespoon of or tea spoon the bubble/floating plastic and stir it in, you may or may not have to reheat the plastic again. a very little goes a long way. Hope that explains it better. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 The floating plastic we sell is the 3m bubbles already mixed into some plastic. I won't sell the 3m glass bubbles by them selves cause they are an absolute mess to deal with. You also should wear a reparator when using them in the dry state. its much easier to work with when its in a liquid state. Delw. By glass bubbles are you refering to fiber glass bubbles? I know a reparator is standard safety attire for fiber glass. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterweasle Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 ahhh yes del it does, thanks for the clarication, hey I was looking at your site the other night and saw alot of requests for larger slug molds. I actually posted on it there a few weeks back asking how close it was to a sluggo, think you can email me a price for one 7.5 inch??? I'd like it as close to a sluggo( of that size) as possible. weasle.one@verizon.net thanks del Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Bruce - They are hollow glass spheres that are very crush resistent. Real glass as in made of silica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Del, are you talking about microballoons? I've just taken delivery of mine. When I opened the bag, a huge plume of white powder escaped. I lept for my mask! I'm surprised no one has mentioned the need for a mask when dealing with this stuff. Once it is settled in a suitable container it is manageable as long as you don't move too fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Vodkaman - it has been mentioned a number of times. Here's one: http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8006&highlight=glass&page=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Thanks Smallie. Can't over mention this information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRegulator Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Doesn't the plastic float on its own without the need to add bubbles? I'm fairly new at this, but everything I make floats on it's own unless I add salt. Just curious why you would need more bouyancy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 The weight of the hook will make most lures sink slowly. If you want to make something that will float with a hook you'll need to add something to make the plastic more buoyant. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRegulator Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Anybody make stik baits with no salt? Is the fall rate with a hook enough to be effective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveviper Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yes it will sink with the hook weight...slowly...if your fishing in 2 feet of water no biggie.If your in 18 feet............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 All of my sticks are poured without salt. There really isn't much of a fall rate at all, especially if there is any breeze. The bait will just sit on top. I mainly pour without salt because the color is much better. These sticks are rigged Carolina, giggy head, Texas, split shot, etc. They will also stand straight off the bottom. Alot of people fish deeper water with a bullet weight. If you are fishing them with a bullet weight, why would you need a salted bait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 One other thing, 3M makes those spheres in different wall thicknesses. So if your doing any mechanical mixing, its best to get the thicker wall sphere as they do break when they are mixed with any force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squigster Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 In regards to salt or no salt, if you are using it weighless and it does not have salt you might as well throw a bic pen out there and try to catch a fish. If it dont wiggle a few dumb ones may eat it and they do, but it is not nearly as effective weightless if it does not have salt. The other point in the earlier post is totally true. If you are adding weight then it really does not need salt in it at all. I know alot of guys that almost only fish it with a light bullet weigh and are very successful. The bottom line is if they are relatively shallow and will eat it thrown weightless then throw it weightless. If they are deep then you do not need salt. My only exception to this would be if you were drop shotting it and wanted the tight wiggle on the fall otherwise you could just shake an unsalted one and catch them the same way. Everybody has a way they prefer to fish it based on their success with it so it is really dependant upon the situation on which one is better over the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRegulator Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I usually just fish my stiks wacky rigged. So I guess I need the salt added. I asked the question, because, when I am pouring I will occasionally get one of the first pours floating when I put it in water to cool. I assume this is from not have the salt mixed in consistently enough or having the plastic too hot and the salt 'dropping'. Usually I just pitch them out and it got me thinking if it would sink with a hook anyway maybe I should keep them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...