ChadK Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Anybody have a problem with colors fading in a bag of finished baits with salt and scent added in the bag. The saturated salt granules seemed to suck the color from the baits turning them much clearer. I guess I wont be using salt. i hope the scent does not have the same effect. I had to melt down quite a few bags of baits and start over with them. Alot of lost time today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGETBIT2 Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Chad the only colors that I have had fade were anycolor that got mixed with a white bait. Never had a prob with colors bleeding in a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I am willing to bet 2 to 1 it is not the salt. It could be you cooked that particular batch too hot. I have watermelon fade every now and then if I over cook it. Whta color was fading? Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EugeneM Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I am with Saint on this one I dont think the salt had anything to do with the fading colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadK Posted January 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 well, it was watermellon for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Remelt, and add more color. It will be fine. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 You need to find the root of your problem, though... If it's too hot because you're heating it too long, lower heat time, too hot due to reheats because you only have a few molds - cook less of it, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Then again translucency can be a desired effect. If you use flake it allows it to show better and reflect the light that passes through. TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTDuckman Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 The mold makers will like this, but my advise is more molds. Watermelon will fade for me if I reheat it too many times. More molds=less reheats. I try to work it so that at most, I have an initial and 2 heat ups. Most colors don't have a problem, but I have hundreds of baits that I poured 2 years ago before I figured it out, that are faded pretty. Rarely happens now though. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Chad, is it just one color? or is it different colors also? is there salt in the plastic when you pour or only on the outside. salt will absorb the scent and maybe your scent could be interacting with the worm. Try them in a bag with only salt and then try a bag with only scent of cource try a bag with only the worms. remelting them might not be a good way to go as all the scent and salt will be mixed in and you might have the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmblack Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Also make sure you are shaking up the color very well. As Del posted a while back, get a new shiny nut and put it down in the dye to help get it mixed up ggod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadK Posted January 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 the sticks had salt in the formula. Then bagged them up with external salt and several drops of scent added. The salt seemed to absorb the color of the scent as well as sucking the color off the bait. The re-do's I did last night i only added scent into the bag, and no exterior salt. I was pouring three different molds at a time. And its hard to say but probably was pouring a cup of plastic. I really cant remember if I was getting through all 3 molds before I had to re-heat. That sounds like a logical explination I guess so I'll try to be more conscious of how many re-heats a cup goes through. Its in a fairly cold environment where I'm pouring so plastic probably tends to cool off a little quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Chad I am guessing the oil from your scent is drawing into the sticks through the salt . This happens alot with bags that have the scent added. if you add no scent in the bag you shouldnt have a problem. one other thing is there is scent in the bag and it doesnt have UV inhibators(sp) it may change color when hit with sun light. Worm oil does that sometimes too. is your scent water based or oil based? water based scents will fade salt inpregnated worms its a common occourance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadK Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I'm fairly certain its an oil based scent as its being added into the formula as well. UpperHand Scent. The packaged bags have not been in the sunlight as of yet., but thats a good thing to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadK Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I would agree that bags packaged with just salt, before the scent was added were not a problem. It seems to be the combination of the two caused this occurance. Possibly the overheating too, but i did not think that was ever an issue with any of these runs that I noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTDuckman Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 It will happen with no salt and no scent with watermelon if you heat it too many times/too hot. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadK Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Man, I am still having problems. went out tonight and the batch i had left cooling on trays had a bunch of faded baits. to reduce heatups I went to making 4oz batches instead of cup fulls and still had the problem. This time, no bags or salt or sent added afterward. Just scent in the mix. This is down right frustrating. Almost all my time tonight was re-melting faded baits and re-pouring. Another wasted night. BTW, these were watermelon color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 You said some were faded. Try to seperate them when you pour. For example, put the first pours over here and the re heats over there. See if any one group tends to fade, and post back. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
