alphawolf Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I sen some companies selling stick baits for $10 for 50 of them...It's obvious these guys are not hand puring them. Anyone know the company that sells stick baits wholesale like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawghunterbaits Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I do not know of any BIG companys selling baits for that price. I do know that on e-bay there are a few guys doing hand pours that are giving, I mean selling stiks on there for 7,8,9 bucks for 50 baits. to me my time and effort are worth much more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGETBIT2 Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I agree with Hawghunter our time is worth much more than that. And you got to wonder about the quality of those baits. I would rather pay alittle more and get a good product than pay 7 or 8 bucks for 50 sticks and get a so so product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I know that some of these guys, even heard a few admit it, are selling caps, or what they cut off their sticks, remelted into whatever color, on eBay for prices like that. If you're looking to buy, be careful as to what you get, if you're looking to resell, well, be careful on that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveviper Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 doesnt everyone reuse the caps? What are you supposed to do with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Lemme rephrase that They use all the caps, from every color, melt them all into doo do brown, I suppose, and sell that as a stick, which is generally harder than the rest, due to the settled salt and such. It's not the same amount of care taken to make sure the sticks are consistant like the original pours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkaras1 Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Then they should just call them dodo sticks LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubeman Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I do not know of any BIG companys selling baits for that price. I do know that on e-bay there are a few guys doing hand pours that are giving, I mean selling stiks on there for 7,8,9 bucks for 50 baits. to me my time and effort are worth much more than that. Humm, the shipping probably makes up the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 The problem; as I see it; is that there will always be some uninformed/non-businessperson who will foolishly sell their product at or near their presumed cost. This can; at first; reflect poorly on those who pride themselves on suppyling the best product they can to the public. After enough of this sub-standard product has been sold 2 things will happen. At some point the seller will find out that they are actually loosing money because they failed to account for "all" of their costs of manufacturing; and the customers will come to realise that this product is very substandard. The old saying of "you get what you pay for" is very true. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 The problem; as I see it; is that there will always be some uninformed/non-businessperson who will foolishly sell their product at or near their presumed cost. This can; at first; reflect poorly on those who pride themselves on suppyling the best product they can to the public. After enough of this sub-standard product has been sold 2 things will happen. At some point the seller will find out that they are actually loosing money because they failed to account for "all" of their costs of manufacturing; and the customers will come to realise that this product is very substandard. The old saying of "you get what you pay for" is very true. Dead on Nil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawghunterbaits Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Tubeman and nova r dead on! I have to think theses guys do not figure in cost, or they would not sell them for that. Do they figure in packaging, gas to the post office, standing in line at post office, in the end if they really sat down and figured out cost for 50 baits I bet it cost them a couple bucks to sell them. LOL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Ah, you guys are bringing back memories. I was one of the first to start selling sticks on eBay some years back. I would AVERAGE $20 per 30 pack....sometimes getting up to $35. Those were the good ol' days. I had so many people emailing me for sticks, that was all I had time to pour. Within 6 months, there were at least a dozen others selling on there. The injected ones started showing up and that really drove the price down. I remember one time seeing 100 injected ones for $12, Buy It Now price. I bought some of them and they were stiff, had no action and a slow salt content. Oh memories.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I sen some companies selling stick baits for $10 for 50 of them...It's obvious these guys are not hand puring them. Anyone know the company that sells stick baits wholesale like that? To answer your question: http://www.alluringbaits.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmik26 Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Back in the days I bought some from Brent and the sticks were pretty good but, no where near the quality of hand poured sticks. Doo do brown..... Thats just flat out funny.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 There are all levels off players in every game. In bass fishing, you have the entry level guys who think 50 bucks for a rod and reel combo is getting the good stuff. These same guys would never think about spending 15 or 20 dollars for a crankbait like Lucky Craft or even more for the high end baits. This is the market these poor quality sticks target and it is a big target. I am sure the people who buy these cheap sticks catch fish on them so it encourages them to continue to buy them. When the seductive wiggle of a properly poured stick is all the fish will bite, they don't catch fish that day and go home saying they weren't biting. Even if they don't repeat often or at all, there are many people looking for the cheapest price and eBay reaches a lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bountiful Waters Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 To answer your question:http://www.alluringbaits.com/ Ought Oh, that fella has quite the following on another site. I know he farms some out to a place in GA to make some if not all of those baits. He does quite a bit of business. There is a market for just about everything. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYqpHUNTER Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 did you ever stop to think how many orders the guys on ebay get off them auctions 75 cent to list for a week about 100 150 people look at it so that guys might get 1 or 2 guys look at ebay then contact him off ebay and place orders for 10 - 15 packs of bait.then the guy who wins the auction gets the baits and they are not as bad as you think they are and now this guy has picked up 1-2 customers who place nice size orders.so in the end the 7.50 cent for the 50 stick baits may realy be worth a bit more than what you see in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I agree if you are selling normal baits at a decent price on your own website, but how many of the guys scoping out the cheap baits over at eBay ever come back and buy a few bags at retail? That's right, none of them, because they can just hop back on eBay and get another bag of 50 for next to nothing. That's just what type of customer they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawghunterbaits Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 wow and just to think, up to a few years ago I was paying gary y 6 bucks for 10 baits! Boy did I miss the boat on this one! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 On the whole, I agree that some sellers are clueless, but on the other hand, a few mass producers can sell baits for far cheaper than the guy who pours a few baits at a time and where the time factor makes production a big factor. I've seen some handpoured baits sold on Landbigfish.com I would'nt give you 2:twocents: for. This retailer sells a good stick (mass produced for many large retailers) at a price no one could beat. http://www.niffken.com/product_info.php?cPath=50&products_id=179 You're talking 14:twocents: each for a 5 1/4" bait! Even Stik-O's on sale are never that low! His swirl trailers are 13:twocents: each. As was mentioned, Alluring baits has the same sticks for 20:twocents: each and makes them for the above retailer. http://www.alluringbaits.com/products1.php?id=60&subcat=50%20Pack&id2=63 Laminates, core shot and swirl baits take time for the handpourer to produce and with consistent quality or color and hardness; these retailers sell these mass produced baits at rock bottom prices! The variables we offer are only important to a few: colors, softness and additives. The other things like copying discontinued baits for someone or offering a new design, may be important, but still only to a select few. What bring customers back is product loyalty and service, with price a factor up to a certain point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARVINBASSMAN Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Alluringbaits must be the same people we have here in oklahoma but they go by the name A and M baits. Ive never seen there product but i know there price is cheap. Do they make there baits or is someone making them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish devil Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 a and m is allurings dad. Niffken.com buys from the manufacture Not aluring baits. They both buy from the same manufacture and niffken.com has 2 different manufactures. Niffken.com brand is called tournament plastic baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassnRandy Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I have been selling sticks on e-bay for about $9.00 a bag plus shipping. And you know what it's a small profit but a profit. It's also advertising and getting baits in the hands of customers. My baits are not junk or brown du du with some glitter added. I have around a 50% reorder rate from everyone who buys from me. If you don't believe me ask Jim at Ghost baits what a few auctions of sticks did to me last week. Besides about 15 different buys on ebay with the second chance offers My website took in almost $700 in additional orders. So there are 2 sides to every story. Some customers don't ever order from me direct and waite for the cheaper prices of E-bay. But on the other hand i am getting emails for orders or questions about custom work ect regularily from guys I sold to last year on ebay. A couple of those guys were buying gobies by the hundreds and tossing me $ extra for overnight work. Some times you gotta break a few shells to make eggs. The key is to break only what you need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxfish Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I buy the 5" salty trick sticks from Alluring Baits by the 100's expecially the smoke with red flake. The fish around here can't leave them alone. And they work year round. The price is right and I really don't care who they are made by and how much (if any) they make on them. My time is worth more than the time and material it would take to make 50 or 100 of these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlluringBaits Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Howdy All, I actually started selling on ebay a few years ago, and there are just WAY too many fees to come out on these plastics (at these prices). As far as Jim (niffken), he originally bought from me, and then I told him that he should just buy them direct, as he wanted stuff that I either didn't want, or he didn't want to carry items that i considered standard. I get my plastics from GA and AL. Some are made by the same manufacturer as Yum, Culprit, Pradco, Lake Fork Tackle, Mad Man (formerly), Gene Larew, etc. Other company makes all BPS brand baits, as well as some i didn't list. I started selling these baits because i used them, and knew they were good. Figured if i threw in some 'extras' with every order, and ship within a day or two, everything would work out. So far so good. 2 million worms and counting! We know that there are at least a dozen companies selling these baits (most have the same exact colors) but we try to stay ahead of the curve, and offer new, original items whenever we can. (like the smoke red; one of my fav's and i had to have it.) b "speak softly and carry a big stick" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
