Brian_Va Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Might seem like another mind numbing post from a newb BUT, I was wondering if any of you guys have a cheaper resource than Cabelas for powder paints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 You bet I do. Go to TJ's tackle website. Benjamin carries all the powder you need. It is Pro-Tech powder, and his prices are the best anywhere. Real nice guy to deal with. He also sells complete fluid beds. Here's his link www.tjstackle.com. You can speak to Benjamin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirkfan Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 for basic coating colors, ebay sellers sell 1 and 2 lb packages of powder for a lot less than any tackle dealer, try for the epoxy formulations (more resistant to worm plastics) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I've gotten some of that powder that's not made for fluid beds, and it's too heavy or something, and none of it (that I have tried) flows well. Doesn't matter if you do not use a fluid bed, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I've gotten some of that powder that's not made for fluid beds, and it's too heavy or something, and none of it (that I have tried) flows well. Doesn't matter if you do not use a fluid bed, though. No, you do not need a fluid bed. When my Dad had the business, he made up to a 3oz. popeye/bullet jig and never had a fluid bed. He just used a cup a little deeper than the jig is long, and stirred/fluffed the powder up between dips with a toothpick, or whatever. That being said, I love my fluid bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Va Posted January 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Thanks guys! I should have known....Tj's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 You are correct, you do not need a fluid bed, as I said, and good for your dad. My point was if you intend to use a fluid bed, be mindful of the powder, because not all of it flows well in them, making any savings by buying a cheaper powder non-existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirkfan Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I use Netcraft's fluid bed with them.....no problems so far, most of them tell you if they are usable in a fluid bed. I do use Pro Tec for the more esoteric colors but for black, white, and clear gloss at 8 or 9 bucks a pound, hard to beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 You are correct, you do not need a fluid bed, as I said, and good for your dad.My point was if you intend to use a fluid bed, be mindful of the powder, because not all of it flows well in them, making any savings by buying a cheaper powder non-existent. Wow dude, I was just agreeing with you, you don't have to use the bed, and in agreeing, pointed out that he got by using only the "dip" method. If it seemed like I was posting something to challenge your opinion/knowledge, that was not the intent. "good for your Dad", That's ah,.....very nice of you?? Have a good day anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Va Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 My point was if you intend to use a fluid bed, be mindful of the powder, because not all of it flows well in them, making any savings by buying a cheaper powder non-existent. Nooooo don't get me wrong, I don't buy junk. But Barlows hands you a tube of KY before they do the final total, and I can't have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Brian I use Columbia Coatings and pro-tec. I think CC is the cheapest but a little harder to work with. Can't really tell you how it works in FBs - I do alot of mixing and more brush painting now. Have seen some stuff on eBay that looks like something to try - just don't have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zib Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I found Lurecraft to have the cheapest prices for Pro-Tech but they rape you on the shipping so you will need to factor that in depending on where it's going to be shipped to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstamp Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi Guys, Just got through using the ProTec June Bug color powder paint. (Purple/Green Flake) Comes out like gangbusters. Do any of you guys know where I could get a Black with Blue Flake powder paint? Zorro used to make it. Just wondering if ProTec has it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akriverrat Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 every ebay powder i have bought works well besides the white. bought the aspen white and it tends to boil over and dosent have much gloss to it. havent had a problem paint yet in my fluid bed except protech glow. that stuff goes everywhere and is not worth using in my bed. dipped a few after stirring and so much gets on the jig i end up with a major drip at the bottom of the jig or the front of it while in fishing position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCCustom Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I get mine from Component System Inc You can get a 1 lb jar for around 12.00 not bad at all. TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 TC, I thought I saw on their site they don't sell retail. The new price sheet shows only 6 or so colors @ $14/lb. The rest are $18.50-$20.50/lb, and a buck or so cheaper for a 5lb tub. The super glows are going to $23/lb. I would love to find it cheaper. I do have a tax # and excise #, so I can order from them. Was thinking of ordering some of the new color samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCCustom Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I have ordered 8 jars of the one pound from them. I just called them adn placed the order. Not sure the price just know its a lot cheaper then 5.00 for the little jar. Good luck Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee jigger Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 $5.00 for a little jar might sound expensive but that little jar goes a long way. Ill stick with pro-tec which i know works. If it aint broke,dont fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I have ordered 8 jars of the one pound from them. I just called them adn placed the order.Not sure the price just know its a lot cheaper then 5.00 for the little jar. Good luck Tim For colors I use a lot of...you bet it is. This is the only P.P. I have ever tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Component System Inc. and Pro Tec are the same. Think the math is right… Average price of $5/2oz = $2.50/oz ($40/lb) $14/lb = $.88/oz save 65% @ 2oz Average price of $5/1.5oz = $3.33/oz ($53.33/lb) $18.50/lb = $1.16/oz save 53.75% @ 2oz $18.50/lb = $1.16/oz save 65.31% @ 1.5oz $20.50/lb = $1.28/oz save 48.75% @ 2oz $20.50/lb = $1.28/oz save 61.56% @ 1.5oz $23.00/lb = $1.44/oz save 42.50% @ 2oz $23.00/lb = $1.44/oz save 56.87% @ 1.5oz Some Pro-Tec jars come in 2oz or 1.5oz jars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thill Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Wow... I found a small local place that will sell me PP in white, yellow red or black for $5.50/lb. It is NOT as easy to work with as the Pro-Tec, and does not go as far. It tends to blow around a lot in the fluid bed, but for that price, I can deal with it. I still keep some jars of the good stuff (pro-tec) around for special projects. But you may try local powdercoating companies, and ask if you can buy some off them. -TH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Wow... I found a small local place that will sell me PP in white, yellow red or black for $5.50/lb. It is NOT as easy to work with as the Pro-Tec, and does not go as far. It tends to blow around a lot in the fluid bed, but for that price, I can deal with it. I still keep some jars of the good stuff (pro-tec) around for special projects.But you may try local powdercoating companies, and ask if you can buy some off them. -TH I'll agree with you on less expensive powder. I've posted here several times, about different Powder Paint manufacturers. Our company powder paints about 600 colors, and they are all from different manufacturers. Reason being some colors are std. for some companies and some are not, so it doesn't pay to have a custom powder made. With that said, I also posted, about different powder make-ups. Poleyesters, hybrids, epoxys and so on. I like the Protec colors I can't find anywhere else, that's what I use them for. Pro-tec is an excellent powder, but it is also expensive. I also have been trying Columbia Coatings. I love there paint. It's a little harder to work with, but once you figure it out it is no problem. I have access to hundreds of powder colors from work. I use them all and have never had any paint adhesion problems. Some powder was bought at $3 a pound. It is very good powder. I think a lot of you guys are short changing yourself, by not trying something different. Just my personal opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Also there is blending your own colors. Have special mixes like: Olive Pearl white with holograph glitter Diamond mirror black Candy apple red with holograph glitter Electric blue with blue glitter Emerald green with green flake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 So how different are they? just different heat ranges to use or more airpressure needed? I am looking at buying some more paint in bulk and just doing some research I have had the best luck with protec from TJ's but I want to buy from somewhere that I can get bigger quanties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampeoples Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Give Ben a call or email, I bet he'd get larger quantities for you. The one's I tried were different in how they flowed in the bed, some did ok, some blew powder all over the bench, some volcanoes. Adjusting the pressure helped some, but some were beyond help. It's entirely possible to get good even finishes with the other brands, I personally did not enjoy fighting it, as I do not like to powder paint, I would rather use an airbrush, but lots of folks do not mind, or spent more time on it than I did That and I was never a large user, at $10 a jar I would still feel I got my money's worth out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
