Uncle Grump Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi all Been lurking for a while - time to jump in..... I've been tinkering at making my own jigs for the last 6-8 months - nothing real fancy yet - but I'm more interested in function than anything else. I've been looking at the stuff I've store bought vs what I can tie.... Many of my store bought hair jigs are wrapped w/ chenile - and I am stumped on how to 'tie it off' once I get it wrapped around the hook shank up to the head. I've used thread - the same color as the chenile, and it works - but there has to be some thing else.... Thanks much UG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac10 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I use a thread collar to tie it off as being the standard way of doing it.....tying the back on first, running the thread by wrapping it forward and catching the chenille when it comes forward and then making a thread collar over it for about 1/8 to 3/16 inch.... Chenille wraps are great for holding scent if you use scent at all. Instead of using the same color, you may want to use red thread.....adding a little red to the overall tie is a good idea in my book....my opinion. Sometimes just a contrasting color sets it off nicely as well, for example a black collar on a light colored chenille gives the best of both worlds concerning catching a fish's eye at the onset. Hope this helps, Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Va Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Chenille is real good at covering up thread.If you de-manufacture a jig, you'll see a lot of times nothing more than few wraps and a couple of half hitches. Thats all I do myself, considering the life of a jig, whats it really worth? If I did some for a customer I'd go a bit further with a dab of head cement, but thats it. If I was doing calftail or bucktail, I'd finish with a whip finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Learn how to whip finish by hand or a large saltwater size whip finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Welcome Uncle Grump This is a method I use for chenille; To tie on chenille – strip off a ¼” of the fluff and tie the exposed thread (tag) to the shank of the hook. Wrap thread forward to the hook eye or jig head (whatever you are tying). Wrap your chenille, around the hook, forward to the thread. To finish the tie - wrap the thread over the chenille twice and then once under the chenille then tie a half hitch. Cut the chenille leaving a 1/8” tag. Clean off the fluff up to the double wrap, over wrap the tag end with your thread, and whip finish. This method leaves a cleaner – flatter tie off. Before you whip finish – try tying in a wet hackle (big plus for added action) around the neck. Hope it makes sense.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I use a thread collar to tie it off as being the standard way of doing it.....tying the back on first, running the thread by wrapping it forward and catching the chenille when it comes forward and then making a thread collar over it for about 1/8 to 3/16 inch.... Chenille wraps are great for holding scent if you use scent at all. Instead of using the same color, you may want to use red thread.....adding a little red to the overall tie is a good idea in my book....my opinion. Sometimes just a contrasting color sets it off nicely as well, for example a black collar on a light colored chenille gives the best of both worlds concerning catching a fish's eye at the onset. Hope this helps, Mac Mac has shown me a few neat tricks... His tutorial in the Member Submitted Tutorials, explains a cleaver method of pulling the thread under the wraps giving a jig a very clean look. http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11915 Thanks again Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 UG Take a basic fly tying class is probably the easiest and best way to really get into tying jigs. You will learn knots, techniques, and all about materials and their characteristics. If you can tie a wooly bugger – you can tie any kind of jig (IMO). You want to do fnf jigs – learn to tie streamers. Look up a local fly shop and give them a buzz – I’m sure they will hook you up. Out here Bass Pro offer classes. An alternative to chenille, much easier to tie off, is dubbing. Or peafowl hurl - a real favorite. I like using the stuff from around the eye, real buggy green with a lot of iridescence. Dubbing technique is pretty easy and is the tyers choice – loop, spin, wax, no wax…. There are a lot of new and different materials (crystal flash) used in both dubbing and chenille. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake373 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Heres my jig that I use8O : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Are you using collared jig heads??? I see alot of thread wrap near the living rubber tails and the chenile looks really big for that size head. If you have a lead collar cut some of them off down to the hook and extend the chenile for the body. Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake373 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Yes its collared and i also tie on noncollared ones too. The fatter chenile is sometimes better for bigger gills and crappie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I've been tying some awesome panfish jigs the past few days I'll try to post some up when I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Learn how to whip finish by hand or a large saltwater size whip finisher. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 well I gave you a few days did you post them yet? just giving you a hard time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Yeah I did post them bg. Look in the gallery (jigs section) or look at my avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 yeah they are looking real good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Thanks bg. I'm running out the store now to pick up some more colors of stuff and some calf tails and some 1/50 oz jigs. I'll post up what I get done when I get the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 yeah let us see always intrested in what other people do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 I just posted up a pike fly that I tied yesterday. I'll post up some pics of the calf tail jigs that I tied later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 thats a nice looking pike fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Thank you. I have a red and black one (white head) drying, and I'm going to make an orange and chartreuse one later tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
