Darkman Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'm just don't like the way I'm add the skirts to my jigs...they just don't look right to me...any one have step by step instruction on this, it would be great. pic. would be great.....any one want to put a tutorial I need help LOL!!! Im sure this will help out a ton of newbie also thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Mac10 has a good grip on making jigs. He just published a Member Submitted Tutorial on making swim jigs http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11915 See if that helps. The tie off method he uses helps cut some of the bulk out of the jig. If you have a specific question, ask Mac10, he can probably get you on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Hey Darkman, What kind of skirt do you want to tie ? Deer, rabbit , marabou, silicone etc ? Below is the link for hair jigs with rabbit fur: http://www.smallmouths.com/article/rabbit-hair-jig.php Also you can check Jensen Jigs website (check Articles) http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/jighead/frame.html Hope, it helps. Regards, PSV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 good question, Bass jigs...arky or football living rubber or silicone...one and two colors thread...not rubber collar by the way those sites were a great help...thank you both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stream stalker Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I tie my own bass jigs as well. Silicone and living rubber. What type of help do you need...........be more than glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookUp Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Here's a good link to rabbit hair jigs http://www.hatchesmagazine.com/page/may2006/176 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARVINBASSMAN Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 darkman im in the same boat as you, i make tons of jigs and hate the rubber collars. Ive read ton of information on tying but im a visual learner so not much help. what ive been doing on my jigs lately is putting the skirts on with very small zip ties so far so good,very little movement and they wont rot or break works good real good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-D Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Here's a bit of a PM tutorial I sent some time ago. Hope it gives a little insight on my way. I have learned over the years that there are many "right" ways. The same concept holds true for tying jigs. I very rarely use a vise when luremaking unless I'm tying something so small that it gets lost in my fingers. A vise just slows me down! I can tie a complete lure by the time it takes most folks to get the lure clamped down in the vise. I have buddies who have tried to tie with my method- they say that it is uncomfortable- so use a vise if you wish. I start with the spinnerbait (in this case) grasped by the collar in my left hand with the bend of the hook facing to the right. I pinch the end of the thread (any old nylon button and upholstery thread will do- I like red) between my left thumb and the collar and make a series of overlapping wraps with my bobbin in my right hand. This will lock the thread down and allow me to grasp the spinnerbait by the head without the thread slipping. I use silicone skirt layers to tie my spinnerbait skirts- about three half layers (cut lengthwise)is right for an average bulk skirt. This is where your creativity comes into play- you can use as few or as many colors as you like- as long as you stick with the width of the three layers! Lay the fused end (the cut side should be facing the spinnerbait head with the strands parallel to the hook shank) on the collar- even with the ball or ring- and make two wraps with the thread. Continue this process until you use all of the skirt material (I lay it out before starting to tie) placing each color where you want it. When every strand is in the right place, wrap the thread around the skirt material tightly until the whole width of the collar is covered (about 1/4" or the width of a regular skirt collar) and cinch the thread down with a triple half-hitch. If you take your time and cinch it down carefully, the knot will "dig in" to the wraps and bury itself- and IT WILL NEVER COME UNDONE!!! Trim the tag end of the thread in close and trim the skirt to the desired legnth and YOU'RE DONE! It may sound like a lot of work but, it will look better and be more durable than any bait you can buy... Isn't that the reason we all get ourselves into this mess of making custom tackle in the first place? Big-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMALLIEHUNTER Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I always tie my swim jigs with at least 2colors, sometimes 3 colors!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie525 Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 ok im too lazy to make a tutorial so this is how i do it and it works well for me 1 put your jig in the vice 2 wrap thread around the barb until at the back or where you want it (tying to the back helps a lot with slipping) 3 put head cement on the thread all the way around 4 place main color on(ex. black and blue. tie black first) wrap 7 to 10 times 5 more head cement 6 place secondary color on 7 5 to 8 wraps 8 loop finish 9 more cement, let dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stream stalker Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Why all the head cement? I do all my tyeing and then add a layer of Hard as Nails to the threads and it holds forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMALLIEHUNTER Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 This is how a swim jig should look. Nuf said!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stream stalker Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Very nice Mr. Smallie Hunter!! Here is one of mine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old man in the boat Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I don't use any glue. i just use a whip finish like the boy scouts do on the end of rope. Here is one of my mid season colors Yes a great smallie color becomes a great largemouth color when you put a 7 inch grub on it and swim it over and thru the pads. The same color wth a 5 inch grub run thru schools of shad really lites them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old man in the boat Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 This is one of my early season colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old man in the boat Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 And this is the clear water killer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stream stalker Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Those are very nice! They look suspiciously the same as a couple of swim jig colors produced by Brovarney Baits out of WI????? Or maybe "Old Man in the Boat" is Mr. Brovarney???????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMALLIEHUNTER Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 It sure does!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old man in the boat Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Those are very nice! They look suspiciously the same as a couple of swim jig colors produced by Brovarney Baits out of WI????? Or maybe "Old Man in the Boat" is Mr. Brovarney???????????????????? Hmmmmmmmm is that Brovarney one butt ugly dude?????? I don't think you can call anyone that old and slow MR.......... Ok I confess.....I'm Butt ugly and old and slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old man in the boat Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 So........ When you have all of the skirting on the jig.........take a loop of mono and lay it next to the jig. fully wrap the jig (over the loop)........snip the line and feed it through the loop. Hold line with one hand and pull out the loop with the other...........trim.....no glue needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMALLIEHUNTER Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I, personally use 3 half-hitches and i put a coat of clear finger nail polish to seal it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stream stalker Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ahaaa! The case of the Old Man in the Boat has been solved. What a super sleuth I am! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr316 Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ya should have known by the hook thread.... actually I knew who he was last year when he posted a pic of the psyclops football head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old man in the boat Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Just anouther guy that likes to make fishing lures and wants to get better at it......Which is why we are all here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Big-D. I haven't seen that tutorial yet. I don't know where it might have gone, but if send me a copy of it or if you'd like to post it, I'll make sure it it posted. There have been tutorials sent in that got delayed... mine got held up for almost 7 weeks before it showed. That goes for anyone else who reads this, you have a tutorial you'd like to submit, write, etc., let me know and we'll get it posted. Thanks again, Bruce Here's a bit of a PM tutorial I sent some time ago. Hope it gives a little insight on my way. I have learned over the years that there are many "right" ways. The same concept holds true for tying jigs.I very rarely use a vise when luremaking unless I'm tying something so small that it gets lost in my fingers. A vise just slows me down! I can tie a complete lure by the time it takes most folks to get the lure clamped down in the vise. I have buddies who have tried to tie with my method- they say that it is uncomfortable- so use a vise if you wish. I start with the spinnerbait (in this case) grasped by the collar in my left hand with the bend of the hook facing to the right. I pinch the end of the thread (any old nylon button and upholstery thread will do- I like red) between my left thumb and the collar and make a series of overlapping wraps with my bobbin in my right hand. This will lock the thread down and allow me to grasp the spinnerbait by the head without the thread slipping. I use silicone skirt layers to tie my spinnerbait skirts- about three half layers (cut lengthwise)is right for an average bulk skirt. This is where your creativity comes into play- you can use as few or as many colors as you like- as long as you stick with the width of the three layers! Lay the fused end (the cut side should be facing the spinnerbait head with the strands parallel to the hook shank) on the collar- even with the ball or ring- and make two wraps with the thread. Continue this process until you use all of the skirt material (I lay it out before starting to tie) placing each color where you want it. When every strand is in the right place, wrap the thread around the skirt material tightly until the whole width of the collar is covered (about 1/4" or the width of a regular skirt collar) and cinch the thread down with a triple half-hitch. If you take your time and cinch it down carefully, the knot will "dig in" to the wraps and bury itself- and IT WILL NEVER COME UNDONE!!! Trim the tag end of the thread in close and trim the skirt to the desired legnth and YOU'RE DONE! It may sound like a lot of work but, it will look better and be more durable than any bait you can buy... Isn't that the reason we all get ourselves into this mess of making custom tackle in the first place? Big-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...