akriverrat Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 just wondering your opinions on clear powder coat for a protective coating. what is the rocommended application process? does it need some cure time in the oven or is this an aftercoat thing? is it tough? will it work in a fluid bed? seems i have a harder time with the lighter colors in my fluid bed and it dont get any lighter than clear. thanks guys and keep up the good work. summer is almost here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 ak, you bet it works, and yes it toughens the powder if you re not going to use Devcon 2T my first choice. I don't know how much tougher it gets, but itis harder. I have 200 lbs of clear. The directions are as follows. Powder paint your jig as normal. When done make sure your jig is still hot, and sift it through the clear coat, or tap it on with a brush. Next put it in the oven to cure. The clear coat powder I have is made by Alpha-Coatings Technologies, (Matte Clear). It isn't as fluid as some colored powders, so I can't say if it would work in a fluid bed. I don't use mine in a fluid bed, but I do use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 ak, I concur with Ted. I use ProTec's clear and it works very well in a fluid bed. I must have close to a dozen cups of clear with different colors of flake in them. I will paint my bait in one fluid bed with the base color, and immediately go to the next fluid bed with the clear/flake, bake to cure. I often wondered what temp to cure at since the clear cure temp is much lower than the colors. I always use the higher color temp rather than the lower clear, right or wrong, it seems to work. It is awesome over black BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 well I have a stupid question. I am just starting to get into multi color powderpainting. on my single color jigs I don't use a clear coat or anything but on the multi's with eyes will the clear coat work to go over the eyes or does baking destoy the eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 bg A stupid question is one that is not asked. I use clear fingernail/tough as nails polish for sealing eyes on my pp jigs. Saltwater jigs - I use 2T. It's not so much for the added strength but to keep the eyes in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 well I have a stupid question. I am just starting to get into multi color powderpainting. on my single color jigs I don't use a clear coat or anything but on the multi's with eyes will the clear coat work to go over the eyes or does baking destoy the eyes? Ledhed hit the nail on the head. There is powder paint clear, and there is liquid or epoxy clear. I never put any kind of clear on unless. #1 the customer requests it. #2 the jig or spinnerbait has eyes. To me if cured properly, the powder painted jig need nothing else, unless like I stated above. The powder clear, I use is applied after the jig is painted, and before baking. The baking process will cure both finishes. If I use 3d eyes, I do not use the powder clear, because, I still have to seal the eyes from falling off, so the powder clear is a waste of time. I do the same thing Ledhed does, and probably others, and put on Devcon 2T only after the jig is baked, and then the eyes are put on. Do not put on the eyes and then put the jig in the toaster oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Are you guys still getting the Devcon 2t @ wall mart? I did a search online and nothing came up. In the paint department I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akriverrat Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 well i got my clear powder coat from ohio custom coatings the other day. making up another fluid bed to run off the other line on my compressor and also waiting on my mold to dry that i made of durhams. im sure there will be some trial and error and ill keep everyone informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Are you guys still getting the Devcon 2t @ wall mart? I did a search online and nothing came up. In the paint department I assume? Yes, Walmart is the cheapest place I've found so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 While on this subject .... What brand Epoxy are you guys using for clear coating so that you can use right away with soft plastic to keep form getting the raction you can get. ??? Thanx JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 JSC The Devcon 2T is hard to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well I went to walmart and got the stares well I picked out nail polish. and got some devcon so I will be trying it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Thanx Ledhead I did not know that Devcon 2T was Epoxy. Will try to get by Wally World and pick some up. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ohhh Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Sorry for bringing this back from the "dead". I'm getting ready to start finishing some spinnerbaits I've poured and was curious and wanted to get a pro's opinion on this. If I were to powdercoat my bait solid white, then airbrush (normal Createx) some custom colors and patterns, give a quick bake to set the color and then powercoat a clear on top of the airbrush ... would the paint make it ? I want to try it but all I have in powderpaints right now are solid colors so no way of knowing what the paint would look like underneath. Would it run under the clear or even flake/peel ? Didn't want to start a whole thread for this ... sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 5ohhh. You will burn your Createx. You should bake your base coat then do your custom paint job and use someting like D2T to seal it all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeves Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Don't mean to stir the pot, but it can be done and you must be very careful. Initially to heat the head for powder coating, I use a torch. Dip in the powder. Not necessary to bake at this time. Spray on your Createx accent colors and let dry real well. Now here is the tricky part. Using a heat gun and with the head farther away from the heat gun than you would normally hold it, allow the head to heat slowly. Try to let the heat hit the powder paint more than the Createx colors, if this is possible. What you are doing is allowing the head to heat very slowly. Too much heat too quick will crack the Createx. You are going to have to experiment on how long to heat it before you dip it in the clear powder for it to stick. Once you have dipped in the clear, then bake the bait at the temp and time for the base coat color. I have done hundreds using this method, so it does work. I don't like to do it this way because it takes so long, but the results are worth the effort. You can also add glitter to the clear powder for added effect. Give it a try, but have patience as you will no doubt trash a few before you get all the correct timing to be successful. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ohhh Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Thanks to both of you ... will give it a try and post some pics of my results. Thanks Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
