Spike-A-Pike Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 After a long winter of no racing, which has more appeal; NASCAR or F1 racing? The Daytona 500 is set for this weekend and the Australian Grand Prix is still 28 days away. Over the brief span of time since the loss of Winston as the main sponsor, some great short tracks have been dropped from "what-ever they call it today" Cup racing schedule, short tracks like North Wilksburgho, gone forever. Now with all the open wheel drivers invading NASCAR, it is a matter of time before the sport of moonshiners is completely lost from it's roots. Over all fan support dropped in 2006 and 2007... now NASCAR says it will allow drivers to "settle matters on their own", a statement that is left undefined, how soon until drivers and owners start getting fined for not wanting to be on TV 24/7? F-1 is gaining attention in America because there is no properly funded open wheel racing left in the US. Since F-1 is driven on road courses similar to any highway in the world, most people of the world can better relate to the skill level required to drive a road course at speed. The rules are tough, but seem to be fairer as far as rewarding individual initiative and creative design. The cars can be tuned to individual tracks and just about any country in the world can host an event. The F-1 scoring is still a little strange to me, but NASCAR scoring requires a main frame with 64 tera-gig of memory to figure out. So, what do you think??? Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 F1 is much better IMHO. I know that I'd rather watch cars race on an actual track that has hair-pin turns and loops etc. Not watch cars go around in a circle. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I love NASCAR. I am an insomniac. Five minutes of NASCAR and I'm sawing logs for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 HAHAHA... So does that mean you're for F1 (for enjoyment) as well VMan?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I love NASCAR. I am an insomniac. Five minutes of NASCAR and I'm sawing logs for England. You're right and you should be a sleep. What is it, about 1:00 am on your end of the globe? Two more fingers of vodka and go to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Can't, I tried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 NASCAR has Craftsman truck practice on SPEED, followed by the Dual 125's at Daytona... Trim your dish and go to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EugeneM Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I am a Nascar fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bterrill Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 The Nascar fan is the breeding stock of our country. Be very afraid world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beezerbassman Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Nascar is the way to go. I am mad I was looking forward to watching both duals due to the ice storm we lost power today luckly it just came back up at least I get to watch the second dual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kribman Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Gotta say F1, I like the looks and the speed. But Indy in the US is probably my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I think the writing is on the wall for Indy Car Racing. It seems like the schedule of events is dropping, the main drivers are jumping ship to NASCAR, and after the blow out between Indy Racing League and CART several years ago, neither one seems to have faired very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Va Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Southern in origin but certainly pure Americana. I'll take NASCAR, theres something about a big V8 coming by at 200 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zib Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Neither. I'd rather be fishing than watching some cars drive around a track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgcountry00 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I have to say I am a big nascar fan go figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I have to say that I don't know much about the different formulae of US racing, but I do enjoy racing of any sort, particularly F1. I was hoping that Schumacher was going to follow the money and go the Nigel Mansel route. But I don't think that he could cope with being told, "Mike, you have to let them passed, your not allowed to block them"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 F1 all the way.......There's just something about turning right. It's much more of a finesse type of racing. You can't muscle your way into a spot like in NASCAR or you're gonna be airborne when wheels touch. V8 coming by at 190 MPH.....Or a turbocharged V6 revving 16000 RPM coming by at 230? I'll take 230. So much more downforce means faster turns, higher average speeds. Nascar is only exciting when they wreck, the actual racing is great in F1. And when they DO wreck, it's usually a much better wreck, too. Plus, they're not afraid to get their cars wet. I also like the grand prix format of races. Go into a city, put up some barricades and race. Crappy roads and all. NASCAR has their couple road type races a year and it's still boring. Take an F1 car onto the same courses and it's much faster, more dramatic when tow cars are fighting for a place heading into a turn. They can't just nudge their way in or they're both out of the race. There was talk a couple years ago of bringing a grand prix to Philly. I was so pumped for it but it never went through. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffsV2HyIAZA&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPiiKJ0Rrj4&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Va Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 If for only one reason, not that we are looking for trouble..... turn up the volume and sit down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cwSiwf2OpY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well, truth be known, I am a major NASCAR fan. It still seems impossible to beleive that it has already been 7 years since Dale Earnhardt fatal crash. I think his lose is still being felt in the guts of the sport. I cannot beleive that Earnhardt would have let NASCAR get by with some of the crazy lame rules in the current format. The raw speed in F1 is a amazing. It's a great venue that is seen around the world. Every few years, F1 under goes a major change to the car configuration, turbo vs normally aspirated, gound effects, paddle shifters. There are some very cool aspect of F1. But when the driver introductions are complete and the order, "Drivers, start your engines!" is given, the big screen will be tuned into the 88 car's in car channle. But, I wish they'd bring back a few of the old short tracks back and let 'em knock the fenders off, as long as they can make the minimum speed. Fenders, fenders, we don't need no stinkin' fenders. Enjoy race day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Va Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Spike, I might start an argument here but I believe Stock Cars are as fast as F1, and their only limits are the track, correct? Besides I give far more credit to a person who take a car that big and for only 2 cylinders more make it go way in excess of 200 mph, definitely 10 times more exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Brian. I'm too old to argue, I debate or discuss... Besides, the matter isn't even up for debate. NASCAR won't let them over 192 mph thanks to the restrictor plate engines and the current car shape. The last time NASCAR let drivers have a car that could turn a true 200 mph was back in the 1980's, thoughs were the days. And the cars didn't all come out of cookie cutter, but I digress. If your looking for speed, you might try NHRA... Top Fuel runs 330 mhp quarter miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Va Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Granted I haven't followed NASCAR since I was a kid, but I recall them being able to top out at around 240 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamboni Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Granted I haven't followed NASCAR since I was a kid, but I recall them being able to top out at around 240 or so. The NASCAR cars were doing about 205 if I remember correctly. The limiting factor is not the tracks, but the restrictor plates and the aerodynamics of the cars. I was wrong with what I posted before. F1 cars are 2.4 liter V8's, naturally aspirated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
