mickalo Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Been looking through the forum on using a good top coats after curing jigs, I found several methods recommended. Being very new to jig painting, not real sure what would work the best with painting jigs. Using powder paints, then curing the jigs, will the Epoxy 2-part top coat sealer be a good choice to use to protect the finish and prevent interactions with plastic baits? Or is this Devcon 2T a better choice. Most of the areas I finish can be really be hard on jigs, a lot of rocks and other down timber. Bouncing jigs around the bottom can be brutal on jig finishes Thx's Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 If you are using powder paint and curing the jigs, you will not need a clear coat over top. Once the jigs are cured the powder paint will become rock hard and it will not chip. Pro-Tec powder paint will not react with plastics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickalo Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Ok, that's what I thought, but wasn't sure. My mom has an old toaster over she doesn't use any more, which is going to work really well for curing jigs! Thx's for info. Mike If you are using powder paint and curing the jigs, you will not need a clear coat over top. Once the jigs are cured the powder paint will become rock hard and it will not chip. Pro-Tec powder paint will not react with plastics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Question ... I have not used (but intend to) Powder Paint .. but when used with soft plastisol I was under the impression that the plastic would "attack" the Powder Paint. Right or Wrong? Hence the use of an Epoxy clear coat. Thanks JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn M Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I've never had plastic interact with PP. I've used baits with just PP and with devcon as a topcoat with no problems. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Mickalo, Dayooper is right; you don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickalo Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Cadman, what exactly is Devcon 2T used for? I guess I'm a bit confused ... is this a top coat ? what top coat usually works the best, if used or needed? Is using the Devcon 2T a replacement for the 2-part Epoxy top coat ... or I'm I way off base here Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Cadman,what exactly is Devcon 2T used for? I guess I'm a bit confused ... is this a top coat ? what top coat usually works the best, if used or needed? Is using the Devcon 2T a replacement for the 2-part Epoxy top coat ... or I'm I way off base here Mike Devcon 2 Ton (Devcon 2T) is a 2 part epoxy, that is used as a top coat. You can buy it at Wal-mart for about $2 for a 2 syringes. You must buy the 30 minute. This has a longer working time. Do not buy the 5 minute epoxy. Myself and others use Devcon as a finish coat as I mentioned in the post above. You mix two equal parts of hardener and resin on a piece of alum. foil. It is put on with a paint brush, and then you let it dry for 24 hours, in which it hardens and cures to a super glossy finish. You can let it dry longer if you have the time. You can clean your brush with acetone (nail polish remover) That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickalo Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Thanks Cadman, got it now. thanks for the clarification. I found some other 2-part epoxies, I guess kinda do the same thing, on couple other lure craft sites, NetCraft & Barlows, but it seems the majority here prefer the Devcon-2T from what I've read so far. Plus I get a nice discount at WalMart. My daughter is a Dept., Mgr in electronics. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Thanx guys for the answers this is why I had the question: I have an old "Component Systems" Technical Bulletin (Date for the catalog I have is 1996-97 and the "Tech Bulletin" was in it) "Use With Soft Bodied Baits" The Manufactuerers of soft bodied baits. (worms and curly tail grubs) recommend at least 14 days cure time for all painted lures before they are packaged with any soft bodied baits. However, packaging may be completed in several days if lures are clear coated with our Epoxy. This is the only way to guarantee that the plasticizer will not eat in the paint. Does any one know that this has changed ? What do most of you do in reagards to soft plastics packing with "Powder Coated" Jigs ?? Be great if I would not have to do the Epoxy dip thing (years ago when using lacquer would have to clear coat with epoxy). Again Thanx ALL JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTDuckman Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I believe that release is speaking about vinyl paint, also offered by CSI. I don't think they were offering paint at that time. After a head is cured (baked) you are ready to do whatever you would like with it. I know some people use vinyl paint with success, but I have never been one of them and it hasn't been for lack of trying. Powder paint is the way to go. As others have saide, once you see the finish that powder coating gives you, you won't do it any other way. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I believe that release is speaking about vinyl paint, also offered by CSI. I don't think they were offering paint at that time. After a head is cured (baked) you are ready to do whatever you would like with it. I know some people use vinyl paint with success, but I have never been one of them and it hasn't been for lack of trying. Powder paint is the way to go. As others have saide, once you see the finish that powder coating gives you, you won't do it any other way. Tim Tim I think you're right on this. The vinyl paint at one time was a problem. I don't know if it still is. I used it a while back, along with powder painting, when I was doing durability tests. The only thing vinyl paint gave me was a really bad headache. I also didn't see anything in my durabiltiy studies, to justify using it, so I stopped. Powder paint is so much easier to use, work with and store. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Tim & Cadman Thanx a lot for Your feed back. Looks like I was reading about the wrong thing .... After going back and looking the Tech Bulletin over again I see that it is talking of their "Vinyl" I assumed to much ... Relief .... Have made my plans to get with the powder paint ... I have some samples from my "Sales Days" and will experiment with it .. the Chartruse is OK but the other I have is White and it has "Chunked Up" .. Again Thanx for the help .. Hope I did not cause to much confusion ..... Maybe it might have helped some one besides me. JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 JSC, My philosophy is this. It's not about proving anyone right or wrong, it's about helping people out with experiences other people live and breathe daily. We all make are own choices, right or wrong we learn from them, and hopefully, input from others will help us all down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Thanx guys for the help JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookUp Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I've powder painted and cured jig heads, then painted them with NYC acetone based sparkely nail polish to get a sparkely finish and discovered the nail polish does react with the cured powder paint and changes the jigheads colors. Not necessariely a bad thing. Seems to attack the chartreuse color pp the mosts - or any colors I make w/ chartreuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn M Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I've powder painted and cured jig heads, then painted them with NYC acetone based sparkely nail polish to get a sparkely finish and discovered the nail polish does react with the cured powder paint and changes the jigheads colors.Not necessariely a bad thing. Seems to attack the chartreuse color pp the mosts - or any colors I make w/ chartreuse. That is interesting, I normally mix devcon with some fine glitter and a bit of fingernail polish remover (acetone) to thin it out and make it easier to work with and have not had any reaction with the powder paint. I wonder if it is the "sparkely nail polish", I'm not familiar with that product. I double checked baits that I used acetone and others I didn't and could not notice a difference it the colors, though that could be my eyesight. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
