Master Baiter Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 I'd like to know if any one here uses powder paint on Spinner Bait and Buzz bait heads and any tips on the best and quickest way to apply. Has anyone used the fluid bed to powder coat their jigs? Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Welcome aboard, cute name... You can use powder on these baits, but it makes for a messy job with too much clean up, unless you are just making personal baits then it is not too time effective. I would recommend using acrylic or laquer over a self-etching primer and finishing with a nice epoxy topcoat such as flex coat, devcon, Dick's, etc. If you stick with the powder then I would highly recommend a hot-air gun from ACE hardware to help smooth out the finish. JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Baiter Posted December 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 I've been using a toaster oven to preheat them and then use small artist paint brushes to sift the paint over the head .I use white then alil black and then follow up with a glitter .I then bake then in a standard oven for 45min to cure. I looks great and the finish is really duable but with that process I can only paint them 1 at a time and hang them on the rack to bake. I purchased a powder gun from component System but if will only put a very thin coat of paint on it and you really have to work the jar to get it to flow.(great for blade's etc) I really like the finish the powder produce's and would like to stay with it but I'd like to come up with a better way to paint mutiples at a time Thank You for you reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Sounds like you got the process down to a fine science The benefits of powder is taken down a step by the application process...I wish it were easier myself too, your way sounds like one of the best ways to put that stuff on, lets see some pics of those baits. JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markell Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 I use the brushes too. So far it has proven to be the best process for me. I took apart my toaster oven and put in a horizontal wire to hang them on. I cure 6 at a time. I also use a small oil candle to heat the heads and smooth out the finish before I bake them. The brush concept is great for applying multiple colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 I heat mine and then dip, just as I do on my jigs. I posted one of my spinnbaits on November 13, under Tally Blade. It is about half way down the page. Take a look at it, if this is what you are looking to do, let me know and I will tell how. Tally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Baiter Posted December 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 We've been doing this for over 2yrs.(Just don't let your brush get to close) We heat up around 30 heads at a time in the toaster oven then grab one at a time with hemostat's then paint 1 at a time till the rack is empty then we place the painted heads in a standard oven and bake for 45 mins to cure. You can see some of our products on our web site www.banddcustomlures.com. I made up a jig to hold 20 heads and modified CSI spray gun but still doesn't work like I want. This is the only thing that slows us down from a higher production. takes about 1hour to paint around 200 heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Baiter Posted December 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Tally give me a shout some time . Thanks Bill 1-888-EVILVEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 I was thinking of making a clamp like csi makes for their straight fluid bed to cover the wire forms, and use one of their's to cover the hooks, heat in an oven at about 400 deg. and then use their sprayer. You can use a vacuum and a card board box to keep the dust overspray inthe box, and you should be able to reuse the overspray. as long as you have the baits hot enough, 4 or 5 quick passes should cover pretty well. This is just an idea, I just started this business and we are adamant about using powder. I haven't actually gotten the cahnce to play around. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Baiter Posted December 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 I have done what you are talking about .The gun is only $40.00 but it is not worth a darn for painting heads at all.maybe blades. It clogs up to easy. I was thinking of getting an electro spray gun with out the electronics but they are still over $400.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Ratz Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Have you guys looked at the powder coating system from the Eastwod Company. It uses a electrostatic charge that holds the powder and then you bake in a oven like normal. Price seems real reasonable for the unit. They have lots of colors to choose from. You can look at it here: http://www.eastwoodco.com/Department.asp?SKW=TSC0&Dep_Key1=hct&Cat=HotCoat+Powder+Coating&SubCat=Original+Powder+Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Their gun does look a LOT better than the chinsy thing I got from csi. If anyone has used this gun, or tries it out, let us know if it clogs like the other one. Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Baiter Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hey guys, Eastwoods gun does not clog like CSI'S due to higher pressure. The electro guns are great for large items but is tough on small items like we do. Just don't touch the tip out that gun either.WOW! it will light you up!! I spoke we the owner of CSI and he's trying to get the Electro gun without the electronics for our stuff to get the cost of the unit down. My only problem is getting the powder on everything(Wire,hook) the Eloctro gun would be very fast but like spraying the powder it makes such a mess. Any ideas you may have on keeping the powder off everything sprayed would be helpful and cut down on the trial and error time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...