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I guess you could probably ask 100 people and get 100 different answers

your right about that but I would say you forgot about Sid Luckman and Otto Graham. Luckman was the 1st throwing quarterback without him they still might be running the ball 95% of the time(he also still hold record for most TD passes in a game). Graham 3 NFL MVPs and 2 AAFC MVPs and the 10yrs he played lead browns to 10 championships. Jonny U. 3 NFL championships 1 superbowl win 3 MVP's.

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I really didn't forget about them. I know they were good in their day, but I think that 1940s and 1950s football is way different than today. I never really saw them play either since I was just a little kid when they were playing and never really got into football until I got Johnny U's football card in my bubblegum. In those days he was all you heard about....

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1. Elway

2. Marino

3. P. Manning (he will own many records)

4. Montana

5. Bradshaw

6. Johhny U.

7. Brady

8. Farve

9. Troy Aikman

10. Dan Fouts

I really think Montana was an avg. QB he was a product of a new system ( early version of the spred offense) that defenses had not seen before. He was on great teams not good teams great teams. P manning will own many records before it is all said and done. Bradshaw has four rings. Brady won three superbowls with avg. recievers. Aikman has three rings.And then there's Elway at the top. Played in 5 superbowls. The first three if he wasn't the QB the Broncos would have never reached he was the Broncos back then.

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Like him or hate him Farve was much more than a great QB he was a great human. He played hurt he played after great emotional lose in his life. You never heard about him getting in trouble with the law or beating up his wife. He did have trouble with pain pills but he came out and confessed before it got him into trouble. I am going to miss him but I am glad that he is going out on top of his game and not going out hurt like a lot of players do.

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This is far more interesting than some of the mental fantasy games some of you watched... Please note which names never appear and stop crying.

  • Most Pass Attempts, Career, 8,758, Brett Favre, 1991-2008
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even though jflures havent agreed much in this post ill agree with him on this one. your going to have career records when your a good quarterback who never gets hurt and plays for 17 seasons, but that doesnt mean your the best. I think you start looking at greatness my number of superbowl MVP's ,MVP's, and game winning drives

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Well I hate to stir the pot:lol::lol:. But lets's look at it this way Elway played in 5 superbowls, Farve 2. Farve had the same type teams Elway had in his superbowl loses, yet he could not carry his team to the big game. If Farve was so great he would have "carried his team to more superbowls". All the records show is that he had more " ATTEMPTS" than any other Qb to set records. I don't want to take anything from Farve, he was a great Qb just not the best. IMO

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Well I hate to stir the pot:lol::lol:. But lets's look at it this way Elway played in 5 superbowls, Farve 2. Farve had the same type teams Elway had in his superbowl loses, yet he could not carry his team to the big game. If Farve was so great he would have "carried his team to more superbowls". All the records show is that he had more " ATTEMPTS" than any other Qb to set records. I don't want to take anything from Farve, he was a great Qb just not the best. IMO

elway's third rate, eer rated third all time... he still sells toyotas and nissans. I love to laugh at him in that helmet that looked several sizes too small and watching the defense, any defense, sack him like trash.

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elway's third rate, eer rated third all time... he still sells toyotas and nissans. I love to laugh at him in that helmet that looked several sizes too small and watching the defense, any defense, sack him like trash.

He beat your beloved Farve in the big game. I believe your boy couldn't hit an open reciever to end the game. And you call him the best ever.

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elway's third rate, eer rated third all time... he still sells toyotas and nissans. I love to laugh at him in that helmet that looked several sizes too small and watching the defense, any defense, sack him like trash.

I wouldn't put Elway 3rd(closer to 4 or 5), but Even if he was getting sacked all game he would still drive his team down the field for a game winning drive alot of the time.

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Pete.

We're talking about the greatest quarterback to ever play professional football, Bret Farve, is retiring from the game after 17 seasons. PMR remembers Bret through the eyes of an envious rival; while I think of Bret though the eyes of fan and a team owner (Actually bought stock in the team to help pay for stadium upgrades). Thanks for asking. Favre calls end to career after 17 seasons

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