MR KNOW IT ALL KIND OF Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Do you guys think the splash your lure makes when it hits the water makes a difference... like a big splash is good sometimes and bad other times... I know they say never scare the FISH with sound etc.. Just comment your thoughts.. I really dont have an opinion either way.. just thought it might be a interesting post to start.. dont know if this have been discussed before.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsteel Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I don't think it makes a lot of differance. If big splashs scare fish my boy would have never caught one. Many times I have been hit as soon as the bait hit the water...........Oscar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I think it's relative to the size of the body of water... A big splash will scare fish in a small stock pound more that a big splash on a larger lake. There is also more stuff in the larger body of water to defuse the sound, weeds and grasses, fallen logs and trees, an uneven bottom - all that would kill the sound from the splash. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hey Rook, it's like my last birthday present last week. Depends... Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6_feet_deep Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I think the placement of the lure after the cast makes more of a difference than the splash...I've missed my mark where I thought a fish would be and threw too short and saw the fish dart away, but casting to the right distance beyond the spot and hooked one. I'll agree to the reaction bite of the splash as well, in certain circumstances. Good question Rook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I think what kind of fish your fishing for matters. Here in WV when you go to the mountains trout fishing ,native brook trout are very sensitive. You really have to watch your casts and even how close you walk to the edge of water to make a cast. Musky fishing on the other hand just let her fly. And for bass fishin stick a hook in his back and put a float on him Im going musky fishin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickman Baits Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Sometimes the splash will call the bass from under cover like matted weeds esp. with a top water floater but you have to be patient enough to give the fish time to find it & more time to decide to eat it...........alot of fisherman will "dead-stick" a worm but no other bait. Most of the time they've be "bombed" so many times they gone before the bait is totally wet. LOL. Vern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesehead Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 It all depends upon where and what you are fishing for. Frogs make splashes when they jump in the water fish make a splash when a bird of prey drops it rodents splash when they fall off a limb. Fish make a splash when they hit a surface lure or any of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 IMO occasionally yes but mostly no. When bass are hitting minnows on top or when minnows are flipping on top for whatever reason, the splash seems natural. But more often, a quiet entry is more natural and catches more fish. That's one advantage of throwing light balsa baits - less splash. And when you can't be quiet, it helps to let the bait sit until the ripples fade away to start the retrieve. In these days of 70 mph bass boats and run & gun fishermen, that doesn't happen very often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR KNOW IT ALL KIND OF Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 We got a whole new thing to add to the lure package!! Length Weight Running Depth SPLASH Rating: DEPENDS now that's FUNNY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Dude I'm from Cali...swim bait city...to answer your question...no I don't think it matters much LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeman Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I always stop the lure before it hits the water just to avoid the big splash, you can't make a general rule, but I saw fishes that run away from the spot, there are species that prefer a discrete presentation of the lure and others that like it loud Mostly when you fish for active predators with topwater baits they are attracted by the sound , they probably think it is a small predator hunting in the area or a fish scared / wounded that jumps out of the water and makes noise. So, in most cases when the predators are the ones that make the noise cause they hunt actively at the surface the noise is irrelevant, but in calm waters the big spalsh IMHO it should be replaced with a discrete one, and you will imitate either a bug falling into the water or a small fish eating at the surface or a fish that went up to take some air. Just to simply answer your question , if your lures try to imitate as much as possible the looks of a natural fish, why the presentation of the lures in the water shouldn't be applied with the same principles? I thought that a man who uses a monkey to paint his lures and a midget to put the signature on them has no questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I was doing some Bream fishing (different to yours) last week in a small river leading into a salt water lake on the coast. The cunningest, dirty fightingest, wileyest, touchiest, cheating, ambushers, we have around here - not a lot of bites going, but as soon as a boat went past, and scared them out of their little mangrove hide'y holes, smack'o, they may have been scared, but could not pass up a free feed, even when in full flight, probably thinking the little bait fish and prawns we were using,were just as disorientated. So NO, and it was a fun morning. pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I cast too far and put my Ika on the rocks, in the process of shaking it loose I dislodged small rocks which fell into the water with splashes, and then, when I got the Ika free and it fell into the same spot, I got hammered. I think, as long as you're far enough away that the bass don't know you're there, a splash is an attractor. Bass are curious. When I throw a swim bait, I know the splash is an attractor. If you've ever seen bass actively chasing trout, you'll know the trout will actually come out of the water to escape, and make a huge ruckus. And a big bass boiling on a trout makes a sound like a toilet flushing. Because big bass frequent the same "feeding stations" when they're busting trout, the slash triggers a competitive feeding instinct in them. I've seen several big bass chasing the same trout. When the stock truck pulls up, it's stupid how bold and aggressive big bass can be. And greedy. Same thing with bass busting shad. When they have shad cornered shallow, a lure needs to make a splash, and plenty of noise, to stand out from the rest. Now for pitching and flipping, I've heard it both ways, but Dave Gliebe, who learned flipping with Dee Thomas and who was the first west coast guy to come east and win, doesn't care if he splashes on his flips and pitches. He thinks it's a pure reaction deal, and it really doesn't matter. There's a free video of him flipping and talking on westernbass.com, in the video section. Way cool. As was said above, most things in nature that are at the surface make noise, especially if they're wounded. And Larry Nixon bass have a brain the size of a pea. My ex would say the same thing about fishermen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim45498 Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 It's like any entry..If you do it quietly, no one knows you are there. Same with the "splash" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 i typically try to keep the splash as subtle as possible. I know that is practically impossible w/ swimbaits (unless your flipping them). I've seen a big splash scare fish but I'm confident that a fish that hits a lure on initial impact of a big splash would probably hit the lure no matter which presentation is used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 A-mac, Did you ever post a photo of your bluegill with the changed fins, after you'd gotten it to swim. I'd sure like to see it. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gofish,ill Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 i fish a hotwater lake south of me that gits HEAVY pressure.this time of year 50 boats on a weekday on a 1600 acre lake is common..my fishing partner got mad at me a couple years ago because he flips or pitches real quiet and i was in the front of the boat just tossin into the cover not worrying bout the entry being loud.he wanted to know why i never learned to cast properly,i mean he was MAD lol(i was outfishin him4 ta 1)..had to tell him i was doing it on purpose to trigger the fish,and it works consistently at times for me,specially when everybodies being real quiet on bait entry,or fishin behind someone in a tourney.doesnt matter if its crank,spinnerbait or tube/jig....course now theres times when quiets the way they want it too lol.....just gotta fish an let the finny fellers decide lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsully18 Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I think that the splash attracts fishes attention. They are curious anyway. I also think that those of us who have "seen" fish dart away after a splash have been "seen" by the fish and perhaps that is what scared them away. Hey, it's just my opinion. But then, I always told people to get out of a burning building and then I went in. What's wrong with that pic? But then you know how warped I am anyway. Dean, depends? Come on now. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I think that the splash attracts fishes attention. They are curious anyway. I also think that those of us who have "seen" fish dart away after a splash have been "seen" by the fish and perhaps that is what scared them away. I agree. I enjoy skipping a lure a lot. However, I think the smaller splashes are more similar to bait fish jumping than one big kirplunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPala Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Do you guys think the splash your lure makes when it hits the water makes a difference... like a big splash is good sometimes and bad other times... snipped Depends... We got a whole new thing to add to the lure package!! Length Weight Running Depth SPLASH Rating: DEPENDS now that's FUNNY!! I find Dean's is the best answer' date=' nothing funny!!!Fishing is entirely relative and which fisherman is equipped to observe where the lure lands, records the splash as big or small. Then count the fishes that ran away Vs the one that came to the splash in both condition for mildly a statistically valid number of times. Say 10,000 times each way (we are ignoring other variables such as spawning period,water temp, clarity etc etc...) BTW, which fish species we are referring to? I'm quite sure a minnow would run away if my lure did a big splash. An overly general question deserves a grossly general answer. You get what you asked for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Exactly LP, infinite variables! ...species, season, climate, forage base, all water conditions, weather, fishing pressure, & predator/prey relationships based on relative specie population & distribution, moon phase, boat traffic, indiginous individual imprinting specific to feeding behaviors, individual genetic makeup; feeding specific behaviors relative to the size of the fish and of course the current mood of the fish...and the endless combinations of these, and other factors which will all determine a fish's reaction to a lure splashing down, including of course, the type and size of splash, and its proximity to the fish in question. For starters. Some of the variables are variably calculable while some cannot be caculated from a fisherman's general observation of the conditions. Thus,,, Depends. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsully18 Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hey Dean, I got a coupon if ya need it David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troul Hawk Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Normally I try to make as little splash as possible. But last year my buddy and I were out and I had one of those "moments" where for whatever reason I let my cast loose a touch too early and the spinnerbait went about 15' in an arch. When it hit my bud said (and I quote) "What are ya tryin to do knock 'em in the head?" about that time I set the hook on a nice keeper fish. Then I started throwing it high, and I caught two more the SAME way. I think the fact that I started the bait to move immediately, all the flash of the spinnerbait, low light conditions were the items that help fill up my "depends" that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lure--Prof Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hey Dean, I got a coupon if ya need it David Depends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
