tucker2 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Hey guys and suggestions on the most cost effective glitter suppliers foe soft plastic glitter. I would like to buy in bulk if possible. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 What weight do you consider bulk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bait Co. Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Try www.senkosam.tripod.com I hear he's pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBaits Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 here is the correct link http://senkosam.tripod.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish devil Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Senkosam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I would suspect that anyone dealing in glitter will sell in bulk. I have bought from Senkosam and Lurecraft in the past and have no problem telling you they are both first rate. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker2 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) I need in about 2 to 4 lbs of each color in various sizes as well. My main goal is to get the most cost effective and versital supplier I can. I like to use the small .08 stuff and also the large .90 as well. In most cases not everyone sells all of these. Many of them sell some of the products but not all. Finding a supplier that will let you buy in 2 to 5lbs quantities and has a wide selection of the goodies seems to be a tough one for me. Thanks for all your help guys. Edited April 10, 2008 by tucker2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I need in about 2 to 4 lbs of each color in various sizes as well.My main goal is to get the most cost effective and versital supplier I can. I like to use the small .08 stuff and also the large .90 as well. In most cases not everyone sells all of these. Many of them sell some of the products but not all. Finding a supplier that will let you buy in 2 to 5lbs quantities and has a wide selection of the goodies seems to be a tough one for me. Thanks for all your help guys. Give April a call she sell glitter in large quanities and has .008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipLip Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I was skeptical of trying any of Senkosams glitter because the site says the glitter is good for 300 degrees. I'm usually pouring over that temp. Is that just a disclaimer or should I be a worried about it bending, curling or bleeding? I haven't had any problems with Dels or Lurecraft. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveviper Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Is there a white glitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I'm pretty sure there is but I don't know who has some. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBaits Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Lurecraft has white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker2 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) I would defintely be careful only because I have had a few peoplpe tell me that the heat resistance was in the low to mid 300's and I end up ruining a pot of plastic because it melts. I also pour higher than 350 myself. Some of my aluminum molds will not pour correctly unless I reach the 380 to 390 mark. It seems to me that polyester is the glitter to go with for that reason. Metal flake works and is typically cheaper but it doesn't seem to have the same brilliance and it will set off the fireworks in your microwave if you need to reheat. Edited April 11, 2008 by tucker2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Senko Sam's glitter can take the heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) I would defintely be careful only because I have had a few peoplpe tell me that the heat resistance was in the low to mid 300's and I end up ruining a pot of plastic because it melts. I also pour higher than 350 myself. Some of my aluminum molds will not pour correctly unless I reach the 380 to 390 mark. It seems to me that polyester is the glitter to go with for that reason. Metal flake works and is typically cheaper but it doesn't seem to have the same brilliance and it will set off the fireworks in your microwave if you need to reheat. polyester glitters melt at a lower temp then the metal glitters, they are more prone to bleeding and curling as well than alum glitters. Polyester glitters like metal glitters will spark in the microwave all the same. it all has to do with the reflectivity of the glitter has nothing to do with metal in the microwave. when adding any type of glitter in the microwave it needs to be mixed very good, on reheats is very important if there is any clumping of glitter its cut out and added back in little chunks when the plastic is hot , it will allow it to disperse faster and less likely to arc in the microwave. some brands of metal glitters bleed but very few of them. almost all brands of polyesters bleed but only over 300-325º some wont bleed and just curl. Metal glitters wont curl, unless your using .125 size's and larger and then the plastic needs to be extreamly hot. I have heard of .065 curling a tad( not very bad curls though) on some very hot plastic, but only heard this ones. All that being said there is a benifit to both polyester and metal glitters certain colors you couldnt match if it wasnt for ployester glitters bleeding. like wise if you have to use too hot of plastic to pour with then metals is the only way to go. one other thing in very thin and hot plastic metal glitters will slowly sink to the bottom. Basically both glitters have equal use's in this hobby, I still use polyester glitter today, cause I have one color that I count on the bleeding of the glitters in clear plastic to make. I have tried over and over and have not been able to duplicate that color with colors alone. Its clear plastic with just red blue and touch of green polyester glitter, no colors at all. Unfortunatly its the color I feel most comfortable with. Edited April 11, 2008 by Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 M-F and Del-Mart have white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker2 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Thanks for the heads up. I have mostly been using polyesters but I will try the metal flake as well. I was always under the impression that any metal flake at all was a no no when it came to reheating. Very valuable insight. I don't really pour any clear baits so my color mixtures must all be founded around the bleeds of polyester. I never really paid attention to the fact that they bled at all. Would you say there is a difference in the brilliance of the two types of glitter? Also any thoughts on keeping the metals spread evenly through the plastic instead of having them fall mainly to the bottom side of the bait? Thanks again for the insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Just a quick question. Can you pour glitter in your molds and then pour plastic on top of it? Would only have glitter in the top of bait; right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Thanks for the heads up. I have mostly been using polyesters but I will try the metal flake as well. I was always under the impression that any metal flake at all was a no no when it came to reheating. Very valuable insight. I don't really pour any clear baits so my color mixtures must all be founded around the bleeds of polyester. I never really paid attention to the fact that they bled at all. Would you say there is a difference in the brilliance of the two types of glitter? Also any thoughts on keeping the metals spread evenly through the plastic instead of having them fall mainly to the bottom side of the bait? Thanks again for the insight. to keep the metal suspended more you pour a cooler plastic.your plastic has to be extreamly hot for it to sink. or you have a very big bait which will retain the heat for a while and it will sink. I havent found any difference in brilliance between the 2, but what I have found is the difference in brillians between the 6 makers of glitter. most of the glitters are made in india I thik its india its some forgein country. for example brand x and brand y sould be the same red in metal and be different brilliances likewise in the plastic glitters. Just a quick question. Can you pour glitter in your molds and then pour plastic on top of it? Would only have glitter in the top of bait; right? yes you can it works best in an open mold as a mold like a stick bait will drag the glitters off the sides and push it all down. the other problem with doing this is the glitter will fall off the bait. which can be a good and unique thing if you think about it. as the glitter will look like scales coming off from an injured fish. I have stuff glitter in the hook pockers of flukes and bass asassines just to get that effect and see what happens. I can't fish a fluke worth a crap so I dont know if it really works or not. some of my customers have rolled there baits when the plastic is still hot in a salt and glitter mixture and some sprinkle it on open face molds when the biat is still cooling this will hold some glitter but let other glitter roll off when in the water. Might be somethig to play with for something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
