MTfishingrods Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 My 9 year old sons favorite pike lure is a good ol faithfull Krocodile. I am trying to locate some krocodile blanks or something real close to them so he can paint and assemble his own. Has anyone ran acrossed anything close to these anywhere? Or anyone have any ideas on something that would work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasey9 Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 you can still buy them new already painted i just looked in my junk and found 2 that need to be painted if you want we can make some kind of a deal i have more cant find them i have boxes of lures that need paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasey9 Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 forgot my e mail timslures@gmail.com for used blanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTfishingrods Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I know I can still buy new painted ones. But thats no fun. The Kid wants to sit next to dad and Paint krocodiles, so guess what, The Kids going to get to paint Krocodiles.LOL:lol: Have to get him started right. He has yet to do any painting. just assembling. I will shoot ya off an email and see if we can work something out on any old beat up ones you want to get rid of. The bigger the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacious Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Do you want the blanks to be exactly like krocs, or will any vaguely-similar casting spoon work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTfishingrods Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 (edited) No they dont have to be exact. Just preferably similar, or as close as I can get. I have gone through every catalogue and web site that I can think of and either theres not much there or else I am just looking past them. Closest thing I found was in Haggens. Cant think of exactly what model it was, I will look it up in the morning, but it was similar in shape But had 3 or 4 holes on the end for different tie possitions I believe, or for attaching beads, cant remember which. Edited April 18, 2008 by MTfishingrods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 If I had to classify the krocodiles, I'd say they look like a trolling spoon. You might start by checking these; they have a similar looking shape. Good luck STAMINA QUALITY COMPONENTS Your Complete Source For Fishing Lure Components Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacious Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I've looked everywhere too. Krocs are the equivalent of the bucktail jig-- in the right size, they'll catch just about everything that swims. Problem is toothy fish bite 'em off. The Stamina "fingerling casting spoons" were the closest I found, but still a ways off. They are stamped from 0.05" thick brass, and are not nearly as heavy as a kroc. Krocs are stamped from thicker brass so they can be used for distance casting as well as trolling. Because of this heavy design, krocs have a snaky, slithery action that lighter spoons cannot match. Spoons stamped from thinner material have a more erratic 'fluttery' action, as oppsed to the rhythmic, sinuous action of the krocodile. Aside from the action, the casting distance also suffers. I bought some of the Stamina fingerling spoons, but I'm not going to buy any more. It's not a surrogate for a kroc. Nothing you can buy as a blank-- that I have found-- comes close to a Luhr Jensen krocodile. Gator Lures makes a spoon that looks like an obvious knock-off of a kroc, or maybe it's just coincidence. It is available in packs of 6, and at considerably lower cost than LJ krocs. Shape and action are very similar to a kroc-- closest I've found-- and (whoo-hoo!) it's available in 304 stainless steel. Weight/size is much heavier than the Stamina spoons. You could get a multi-pack, and make a project of painting them the way your son likes. Click here: Gator Spoons If it doesn't have to be too close to a kroc, the best option is the Stamina spoons. Hope this helps, good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTfishingrods Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I think the action is bottom line what we need to shoot for so looks like we give these Gator spoons a shot. It is so hard to get him to fish with anything else that I have actually considered attemting to have a die made to stamp my own. Not sure how much money would be involved but have several friend with machine shops so I think we could work out some trades. Thanks for the advice Guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike-A-Pike Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 ...I have actually considered attempting to have a die made to stamp my own. Not sure how much money would be involved but have several friend with machine shops so I think we could work out some trades. Thanks for the advice Guys. One my all time favorite spoons was a blaze orange and bright brass Little Cleo. My dad thought they were only for use on Lake Michigan for lake trout and salmon. A few aways made their way into my tackle box; and at times, they were the deadliest lure on the lake, river, or flowage. To this day, there is always one in my tackle box. As far as creating a stamp and die, add a hydraulic jack to really apply the pressure to get the job done right and cooper and brass should be pretty easy metals to form. It may be a bit of a struggle to keep them nice and bright. In shop classes, we used to shape, sand, buff, and shoot a lacquer top coat on it. There were not nearly the number of finish options 35 years ago... now days, there are any number of thinks he could use. Keep on encouraging his and the two of you will a ton of great memories to share; over the years, they become priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeylegs1246 Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Worth Company sells Heavy Weight Spoon Blades in gauge .080 in lenths of 1 3/16, 1 3/8, 1 3/4, 2 1/4, 2 7/8, and 3 1/2 inches. They are not crocodile blanks and are expensive ranging in cost/1000 from $194.90 to $1640.80. Available in plain brass, polished brass, nickeled, and gold plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
